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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Undead: [b]It is a popular myth that you can't prove a negative. You can indeed prove a negative given test parameters. You can also prove something does not exist within certain parameters. Such as you can prove that there is no African Elephant in my test-tube. You simply define what an African Elephant is, and see if the contents of the test tube fit that definition. If not, there is no African Elephant in the tes-tube. One does not have to prove that there is something else in the tube (a positive) in order to prove the negative because by defining the subject we have set workable parameters. The proper statement is that an absolute (unconditional) negative cannot be scientifically proven. You *cannot* prove that something does not exist anywhere, for example, does work as a statement. Anyway, in the sense of proving there is absolutely no god, this applies. Science cannot prove there is absolutely no god, but it can prove that the god of the three holy books we have been discussing does not exist *within the parameters stated by the books.* So either we must admit the books are not from god, or admit that the god as described in the books does not exist and is actually a different god which is not omniscient. Or both <IMG SRC="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> [This message has been edited by Undead (edited 18 June 2004).][/b][/QUOTE] How has science proved that God can't be omniscient? And please don't tell me Heisenberg uncertainty because that relates to a fundamental limit in the observation of pairs of properties IN THIS UNIVERSE and using our definition of observation. I admit I studied Heisenberg's principle in a very dry course with no philosophical sides so maybe I am missing something here. Could you please elaborate. And to prove that discussing this is futile, how do you know that when the holy books say God knows everything they don't mean that he knew all along that you can't measure velocity and position beyond a certain accuracy. Maybe we are inferior to God because we have missed this limit that he programmed into the universe for so long. Or maybe we are stupid to try to measure them in the first place, maybe the way we try to describe objects is just so fundamentally deficient that the almighty may still be laughing. Who knows? You have to pick something and believe in it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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