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[QUOTE]Originally posted by newcomer: [QB] Assalamu alaykum Phagocyte and Hi homeylu! Thanks for your kind words and also to the others who have joined in this discussion, its been an interesting experience for me as I only usually have the chance to make quick comments on the forum... its been good for me to have my ideas challenged and to look up information when I didn’t have it at my finger tips. I’m glad that my comments provoked you to think and respond too, insha Allah we will all come away from the discussion richer in knowledge, even if it has only helped to confirm our own points of view even more! Homeylu: as regards the information about the people who collect the trash it might be better to start up a new thread about that as this thread has probably only got a limited readership and you might attract the interest of more people who have greater knowledge about this situation in Egypt, certainly than I do. From what I have been told most of the people who come round to collect the trash do live in a specific area of Cairo, and I am told they do a great re-cycling business that has made many of them very wealthy. But as to them all being Christians and forced to do this work, I have never heard this, but as you indicated there is a lot of biased reporting and all information that is dubious should be verified. As to your comments Phagocyte, considering that I have not been educated in the Arab world nor am I influenced much by the Arab media (remember, my Arabic is still not yet fluent enough to tackle your articles in the time needed to keep a discussion lively!), my thoughts cannot be the result of the systematic brainwash you mentioned. I too get frustrated when I hear people in the Muslim world blame all their problems on the outside world as if they had not contributed to any of the problems they are facing. Anwar Ibrahim, the former Deputy Prime Minister of Malaysia (who was falsely accused of trumped up charges to get him out of the way when he was seen not to be towing the expected party line) put it very nicely. He said something to the effect that the Muslim countries had only been colonialized because they were “colonializable”, i.e. their conditions and mentalities had made it possible for the colonialists come in into the countries the first place. I agree with you that the shortage of creativity and productivity and excellence in many areas this part of the world is sad, but is that due to Islam or to something else? If you look at the principles and teachings of Islam this is the opposite of what it is teaching. So perhaps it is more due to the political/social climates that don’t encourage people to think as this might challenge those in power, and to an education system that relies heavily on memorization rather than analysis. I do believe that in a more ideal world than we are living in now that a truly Islamic government could create the best state to live in, but like you I feel that more Muslims have to develop their analytical skills and understanding of the application of the religion before they would be able to do it successfully, according to the (revealed) book. But to link all this to the theme of this thread, I still think that women can successfully and effectively participate in this process wearing hijab, as it is not their minds that are closed and covered by the hijab, just their bodies (including their hair;-))! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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