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It is very interesting to hear what women wants .. I would like to state my opnion which my upset some here yet I think I'd state it. I don't think that women are equal to men but for sure they are equivelant and they have some virtues over men in some things, I totally agree with that, not a compliment but truely they are better than men in a lot of things "socially they are better and they think better in some situation when under no pressure and some situaions" .. but they are not men .. although I am sure that they have the same soul, but I believe that the body has effect on the evolution of yourself, and because women are different than men physically, so they evolute in a different way a beautiful way though .. Women say they are equal but what actually the want is to take the privilages of being women and men without donating any of there rights .. sure women had been abused but they are abused in west and east .. unlike what some women say the majority of women are abused .. in west in some cases women are just a selling item or a sold item, u can see women half naked on a match box .. on the other side "in the west also" there is women that are actually men they simply loose there fimenist, they have different organs but they are men, and of course still there are women that like being women and knows what the word means and may be they are the majority but they are misjudged by both of the other examples .. in East women rights had been abused in many ways, women rights have been removed, still there are women that can take there rights and currently they are taking both rights women's and men's .. I only don't want women to overtake there rights as a reflex to the unequality and the abusement .. I dunno women you are women not men .. it is a great thing that you like you kind, you have something good, men also have something good and they should like there kind it is strange what going on, god made women women, they get pregnant they have those hearts of purity, if he wanted he might made the human kind only one kind and reproduction can be like any primitive specie .. so what do u want women, and what men think
Snoozin Member # 6244
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I agree, men and women *are* different.
To me, *equality* means that a woman has the opportunity and the right to do anything she is mentally and physically capable of doing. It doesn't mean a woman becomes a man.
If that means being president of a country, so be it. If it means being a housewife, then that's great too. 100 years ago in the US, women didn't become lawyers. IMO, a woman is as capable of being a lawyer as a man. Sometimes more capable, by bringing compassion to the table in addition to brains.
There is always obligation to family, but I feel both men and women have this obligation. If a woman is married, then I think the husband and wife make the decisions *together* about what both partners are going to do in life. Who will work? Both? Who has the higher paying job? Who stays home? Who picks up the kid when sick?
Dalia Member # 1230
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Have you lived in the West? If yes, in which country and for how long? Are these your personal observations or just things you've read?
I don't know, bibo, it seems to me you are stereotyping and just repeating phrases you have heard or read, for example the one with the *half naked woman on a matchbox* ... I just recently read that on some Islamic site.
And I don't believe the theory that *women lose their femininity* when they demand equal rights. To me that's just a stupid phrase from people who want to determine how other people should live their life ...
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I lived in the west, and it is a stereotype I heard and I have seen, I lived in Newcastle, England for more than 2 yrs, in Manchester NH USA for 1 yr, I went to Barcelone for approx. a month, Brag in Chic republic for 3 weeks, Frankfort Holland for 6 months, I have videos of that I might send it as well if you want I have some views on my mobile .. I didn't mingle a lot sure I didn't have time and I can't live this life style, in newcastle across the Tyne people where actually doing it in daytime .. it is the truth and I have seen it
Dalia Member # 1230
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OK. So could you clarify what exactly you mean with those statements:
quote:Originally posted by bibo1978: I believe that the body has effect on the evolution of yourself, and because women are different than men physically, so they evolute in a different way
what actually the want is to take the privilages of being women and men without donating any of there rights
there is women that are actually men they simply loose there fimenist, they have different organs but they are men
I don't really understand which point you're trying to make.
quote:Originally posted by bibo1978: I am sorry too
For what?
I simply didn't understand what you were getting at. Maybe you can re-phrase or clarify.
misfit Member # 8880
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quote:Originally posted by bibo1978: I have videos of that I might send it as well if you want I have some views on my mobile ..
bebo, what do you mean by that? are you going to provide evidence that you been to europe?
Horemheb Member # 3361
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If women were running the middle east we would have far fewer problems. Its time for some of you guys to wake up and smell the coffee. This is 2006, not 1806.
mooneal Member # 8782
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WHAT? After reading ur post I can only quote ur words: "I don't think that women are equal to men". U perhaps are not............ Women are more than that. Sorry. I agree that differences between sexes exist but it has nothing in common with equality. Anyway, a new thought to take into consideration.
Dalia Member # 1230
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quote:Originally posted by bibo1978: Frankfort Holland for 6 months
But Frankfurt is not in Holland.
mooneal Member # 8782
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And believe me, women on the box of matches are better paid than me for doing it. Their choice.
mooneal Member # 8782
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I mean I have a different way of life. They earn money with their body. It's ok with me so far as ppl want it and there is no abuse.
germanjulia Member # 8781
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: If women were running the middle east we would have far fewer problems. Its time for some of you guys to wake up and smell the coffee. This is 2006, not 1806.
LOL
YES!
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Ich war uber dieses Julia ernst.
Dalia Member # 1230
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Ich war uber dieses Julia ernst.
Yaani eih???
liney Member # 9790
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HEY Bibo I don`t think we have been in the same Newcastle upon Tyne!!
germanjulia Member # 8781
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Ich war uber dieses Julia ernst.
don't worry, i was serious too! i always say this to my father, but he keeps laughing at me!
damn those men...
sonomod Member # 3864
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What I can't grasp is the fact that men and women are equal in the eyes of God, but socially amongst humankind women are socially below men.
Going back and reading early jurist opinions on the matter of equality between the sexes it seems to me that the Umma only reverts back to its pre-Islamic social inequities between the sexes to distinguish themselves from westerners.
So while they are trying not to mimic the west they behave and think unIslamic in order to save themselves from the ills of the west.
My isn't progress wonderful?
Dalia Member # 1230
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quote:Originally posted by sonomod: Going back and reading early jurist opinions on the matter of equality between the sexes it seems to me that the Umma only reverts back to its pre-Islamic social inequities between the sexes to distinguish themselves from westerners.
I disagree on the *only* but there's some truth in this.
sonomod Member # 3864
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quote:Originally posted by Dalia:
quote:Originally posted by sonomod: Going back and reading early jurist opinions on the matter of equality between the sexes it seems to me that the Umma only reverts back to its pre-Islamic social inequities between the sexes to distinguish themselves from westerners.
I disagree on the *only* but there's some truth in this.
And also possibly because they are impotent?
I notice alot of male-chauvanist pigs are impotent.
My father is thee most feminist guy I know, but he is also a ragging sex alholic. Yes, Dalia lower your head and wonder why I said that. But he is, and not proud of it, but it was something that drove my parents apart.
MK noted in a thread somewhere that Egyptian men have major impotency issues. And looking at some very old medical/philosophy/astrology manuals from the Ummyiad (sp?) age most 'medical' treatments were about male impotency. This particular era undid massive improvments of the Abbassiyiad age (sp?).
I think I need to learn how to spell the different Islamic eras correctly.
QueenBee Member # 9378
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You just took the words right out of my hands. Its amazing how very "active" men seem to be less threatened or concerned about the power or freedom of their mates.
Think about the development of this particular breed of misogyny in areas in the North of big bad Africa.
Horemheb, its actually 1426
Automatic For The People Member # 7160
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quote:Originally posted by misfit:
quote:Originally posted by bibo1978: I have videos of that I might send it as well if you want I have some views on my mobile ..
bebo, what do you mean by that? are you going to provide evidence that you been to europe?
misfit Member # 8880
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quote:Originally posted by Dalia:
quote:Originally posted by bibo1978: Frankfort Holland for 6 months
But Frankfurt is not in Holland.
dalia, why do you pick on bebo.. if he says he went to frankfurt in holland then he did.. and he has videos to prove it too!
bibo1978 Member # 9287
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quote:Originally posted by Dalia:
quote:Originally posted by bibo1978: Frankfort Holland for 6 months
But Frankfurt is not in Holland.
South holland, Frankfort, not Frankfurt of germany near Noord-Brabant south
Dalia Member # 1230
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Ah, ok.
How did you like Holland?
Jesus Cesar Member # 9153
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Holland is the country of drugs and sex.
I liked it so much when i was both addicted to drugs and sex . Been a couple of times at Amsterdam.
bibo1978 Member # 9287
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well no like that in the south but amesterdam is just like this .. in amesterdam in every store you will find at least a small corner for porno stuff .. plus of course the famous red zone there .. but south is not like that it is very chilli though, however drugs there is everywhere in holland
Jesus Cesar Member # 9153
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how is newcastle? except the football team, what's interesting in that city?
Jesus Cesar Member # 9153
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pipo1978: how is "Brag in Chic Rebublic"?
Shareen Member # 989
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I want to know what Bibo witnessed the people in Newcastle upon Tyne doing in the daytime!!
bibo1978 Member # 9287
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well newcastle u haven't missed a lot, it is a quite place .. it was my first traveling to EU, so actually it was unusual for me, I had some funny things happened with me as I am not used to the country, I recall the first time I took a bus people was queing in the bus station it is rectaungular room where you have inlet infront of the outlet, so and people were qeueing in half a circle like .. ok from the inlet through the seats to the outlet so I entered I sat in the seat and when the bus came I just went to the outlet people looked at me as if I had made a crime .. Brag I didn't spend a lot of time as I was doing only an exam there but it was very beautiful the street there are not like the black pavement we use here, they are blue .. I liked it a lot the chic's gals where very beautiful .. very noticeable
Egyptian1 Member # 9809
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Also, the Women Equal Right is to be topless in the beach, or in home or in any place. Because the women have the same parts of top body like the man. It is the ONLY difference is the size only. And these NOT a Reason to make the women cover their top.
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