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Message: HTML is not enabled. UBB Code™ is enabled. UBB Code™ Images not permitted.	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Automatic: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ngeg: [qb] 7ayat, I have been away for around 4 years. And yes I can always come back but I think that at my age I should be building up a proper career-in Egypt- and making lifetime friends and a family. I can't go running around and having fun keda for the rest of my life! I do have ppl waiting for me back home kaman. They have frozen many plans for my sake and I can't leave again. And...I don't me to annoy you bas begad I do feel like a tourist and I havent even been away for that long! Not only that but when i go back home i got used to being treated like a tourist. My visit is a special occasion. My mom cooks(she never does), my sisters spoil me, my pa buys tickets for theatre plays, my friends cancel everything and hire nannies for weekends...and soforth!!! It's not like i woke up one day and decided i want to be treated like the Empress of Japan! It just happened. [/qb][/QUOTE]You haven't been away long enough and you may not be all that clear in your mind as to why your moving back. You may be moving back because you think you have to or it's time but not because you really want to. I don't believe in that reverse culture shock stuff. I spent almost 11 years before visiting Egypt for the first time. I scheduled a vacation for 4 weeks and stayed exactly 4 days and booked a flight out. My instruction to the travel agent was any flight out of Egypt to anywhere in Europe would be fine. I took a flight to London and no connecting flight to Canada but I was glad to leave. I said the exact things being said here, I changed too much and Egypt didn't didn't change and all that. The reality was that I did not change at all and that was the problem. I went back to Canada with the realization that I will spend the rest of my life in Canada as a tourist; I never felt truly Canadian. But as time passed I began to understand things about myself that were the reasons for leaving Egypt and to this day influence my life. There are way too many things to mention here that I learned about myself and my view of the world and life in general that caused me to leave Egypt and those include family problems but the point here is : - Don't go back unless you really want to be there. - Don't go back and try to live like you did before you left. Eliminate the reasons that made you leave so that you don't feel like leaving again. - Don't play anyone else's game, play yours. [/QB][/QUOTE]

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* 7ayat * Member # 7043	posted just out of curiousity, i want to know which usernames on ES are egyptian. i know that Mk, automatic, ngeg, lazeez, masrawi,and me of course are egyptians. anyone else?
charm el feikh? Member # 10243	posted LOL... the top add in the google bar for this thread is 'stop swearing'!
r.i.p.R Member # 11270	posted HEY JAPENESE oi ying pain es lama ting ua batty wang ,nay sorry 7ayat no egyptians here justpure japenese birds
Hoover The Hyena Member # 8356	posted quote: Originally posted by charm el feikh?: LOL... the top add in the google bar for this thread is 'stop swearing'! (Amazed by the stupidity) Google ads are user specific dumbo!! In real life, are you a paprika?
Hoover The Hyena Member # 8356	posted quote: Originally posted by * 7ayat *: just out of curiousity, i want to know which usernames on ES are egyptian. i know that Mk, automatic, ngeg, lazeez, masrawi,and me of course are egyptians. anyone else? Again telepathy repeating! I was about to post the same thing. Don't forget River of Love and Someone Lost (who are one person I believe)
* 7ayat * Member # 7043	posted yeah but someone lost doesn't post anymore. neither does sam on line.
ael_husseiny Member # 10201	posted im egyptian thankxx god
* 7ayat * Member # 7043	posted cool ya ael so people of all the members of ES, there are only nine egyptians? ya lahwi!
charm el feikh? Member # 10243	posted gosh... that is a bit of a surprise. where is masrawi these days anyway? i guess there will always be more non egyptians looking up egypt related stuff that egyptians (er.. if that makes sense) but it is a shame theres not more egyptians to offer up authentic advice. 7, i hate to point this out... but have you taken into account how many of those 9 actually live in egypt?!!! not you.. nor masrawi nor whatsit, nor ngeg... er.. how many egyptians who live in egypt do we have here?
charm el feikh? Member # 10243	posted quote: Originally posted by Hoover The Hyena: quote: Originally posted by charm el feikh?: LOL... the top add in the google bar for this thread is 'stop swearing'! (Amazed by the stupidity) Google ads are user specific dumbo!! In real life, are you a paprika? LOL.. just noticed you barking... sit.. stay... fetch! [throwing stick over edge of cliff] wanna hold on to my feather... oh.. too late shame!
* 7ayat * Member # 7043	posted quote: Originally posted by charm el feikh?: gosh... that is a bit of a surprise. where is masrawi these days anyway? i guess there will always be more non egyptians looking up egypt related stuff that egyptians (er.. if that makes sense) but it is a shame theres not more egyptians to offer up authentic advice. 7, i hate to point this out... but have you taken into account how many of those 9 actually live in egypt?!!! not you.. nor masrawi nor whatsit, nor ngeg... er.. how many egyptians who live in egypt do we have here? well for the first year and a half i posted on ES i did live in egypt. then i moved to sydney last january. however, the fact that i don't live in egypt doesn't make me any less egyptian. although i'm also curious, how many egyptians who live in egypt do we have here?
FUBAR Member # 8177	posted FUBAR is Egyptian ... respect yo ! big it up fo yoself
POW Member # 11450	posted POW is Egyptian
Sarah02 Member # 1332	posted I'm an Egyptian that lives in Egypt
imagine Member # 11591	posted im danish and i look up egypt-related sites to talk to egyptians (mostly).. a shame theres not more of them here.... also nice to talk to people from other countries who just live in egypt
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by * 7ayat : quote: Originally posted by charm el feikh?: 7, i hate to point this out... but have you taken into account how many of those 9 actually live in egypt?!!! not you.. nor masrawi nor whatsit, nor ngeg... er.. how many egyptians who live in egypt do we have here? however, the fact that i don't live in egypt doesn't make me any less egyptian.* Very interesting remark Charm. (I just read the thread abt pete and I hope u r both doing well... Enshaallah all will go well, u just hold on) 7ayat, the fact that we r away makes us more emotionally patriotic abt Egypt. I think our thoughts and judgements are a bit blurred- and sometimes not a 100% accurate. We can imagine what it's like, but how accurate can memory and imagination of daily life in Egypt be after 1, 5 or 10 yrs abroad??? We hear, read, and may be feel but not LIVE the everyday struggle of an average Egyptian. Of course this differs from a person to another laken that's what I noticed.
charm el feikh? Member # 10243	posted im glad you still feel very egyptian 7.. you havnt lived in australia long. Ngeg is right.. it does vary from person to person but i have to admit ive lived in england so long i dont feel very scottish anymore. its a strange feeling, its not as though i WANT to be english, and im proud that im scottish, but my accent has changed, my friends, colleges children, partner etc are all english... i live the english lifestyle on a daily basis. when i travel now i am seen to be english and i tell people i am from london. when i visit scotland i am always amazed at the changes i see and although in my heart i feel like im going home, in most other ways i feel like a tourist.
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by charm el feikh?: In most other ways i feel like a tourist. I wanna cry now! This is quite close to how i feel at the moment. I'm moving back home and I have no idea how life is like. My memory isn't helping me much either... I know it will take me 6months -a year to settle down. But that's how long it took me to move out of Egypt and settle down here! I don't even see my parents place as "home" anymore ! It's very sad.
SleeplessInCairo Member # 8452	posted quote: Originally posted by Ngeg: 7ayat, the fact that we r away makes us more emotionally patriotic abt Egypt. I think our thoughts and judgements are a bit blurred- and sometimes not a 100% accurate. We can imagine what it's like, but how accurate can memory and imagination of daily life in Egypt be after 1, 5 or 10 yrs abroad??? Ngeg, me and my other British friends living in Egypt are the same. We feel more patriotic to Britain than we ever did when living there. We frequently talk about the differences between here and home and when we get to our homesick stage and discuss leaving Egypt we always see the best of the UK. It doesn't take more than 1 week being back in UK to see that we are actually happy in Egypt!
newcomer Member # 1056	posted quote: Originally posted by Ngeg: I wanna cry now! This is quite close to how i feel at the moment. I'm moving back home and I have no idea how life is like. My memory isn't helping me much either... I know it will take me 6months -a year to settle down. But that's how long it took me to move out of Egypt and settle down here! I don't even see my parents place as "home" anymore ! It's very sad. Assalamu alaykum Ngeg! They say that reverse culture shock is more difficult to cope with that culture shock...you think you are going home and will fit in, but although home hasn't changed much, the "you" that is going back has, due to your different experiences. Give yourself time and seek out others who have lived away...it will make it easier for you.
DawnBev Member # 11276	posted I left England at the age of 18 to work and live abroad. I returned at the age of 32 and ended up staying for a while, cos I got married, had a baby, got divorced but staying in the UK until my son grows up. During all that time I very rarely felt homesick. I missed my family sometimes and certain things, but not enough to want to go back. Can't wait to leave again though!
* 7ayat * Member # 7043	posted quote: Originally posted by charm el feikh?: im glad you still feel very egyptian 7.. you havnt lived in australia long. Ngeg is right.. it does vary from person to person but i have to admit ive lived in england so long i dont feel very scottish anymore. its a strange feeling, its not as though i WANT to be english, and im proud that im scottish, but my accent has changed, my friends, colleges children, partner etc are all english... i live the english lifestyle on a daily basis. when i travel now i am seen to be english and i tell people i am from london. when i visit scotland i am always amazed at the changes i see and although in my heart i feel like im going home, in most other ways i feel like a tourist. you know i find that very stressful. i'm really worried about the day that i will start feeling like a tourist in egypt. i think i will have an identity crisis
* 7ayat * Member # 7043	posted quote: Originally posted by Ngeg: quote: Originally posted by charm el feikh?: In most other ways i feel like a tourist. I wanna cry now! This is quite close to how i feel at the moment. I'm moving back home and I have no idea how life is like. My memory isn't helping me much either... I know it will take me 6months -a year to settle down. But that's how long it took me to move out of Egypt and settle down here! I don't even see my parents place as "home" anymore ! It's very sad. lol ngeg i think i used to fight with people because of egypt more when i lived there. i've calmed down shwaya lately i hope your adjustment to life in egypt is easy. how long have you lived abroad? and if you don't feel comfortable can you leave again?
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by SleeplessInCairo: It doesn't take more than 1 week being back in UK to see that we are actually happy in Egypt! [/QB] Very true sleepless, I always feel the same way when I go home-and I almost go for a weekend every six weeks or sth. But I know that Cairo is where I belong! Nevertheless, I can't deny that I have more fun here. I laugh more, relax more and have more time for myself to do things that IIIIIII want to do. I totally understand what u say. Cheers, N
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by newcomer: quote: Originally posted by Ngeg: I wanna cry now! ...... Assalamu alaykum Ngeg! They say that reverse culture shock is more difficult to cope with that culture shock...you think you are going home and will fit in, but although home hasn't changed much, the "you" that is going back has, due to your different experiences. Give yourself time and seek out others who have lived away...it will make it easier for you. Wa alaikum al salam newcomer; Thanks for your advice. I'm doing my best to try and stick to ppl who understand that I'll definitely have a crash landing in Egypt soon. Ppl who understand that with this crashlanding, some damages have to take place and I don't intend to do it ontop of their lives. I'm trying hard to make ppl close to me understand, but I can't help being worried and stressed out abt it.
drew Member # 11602	posted hello everyne, im a fish out of water too. i love egypt and egyptians, i fell in love with an egyptian girl, but i wasnt good enough for her family. i accept everything but i cat explain the attraction to not only her but her entire being, her lofestyle her country her family her everything
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted 7ayat, I have been away for around 4 years. And yes I can always come back but I think that at my age I should be building up a proper career-in Egypt- and making lifetime friends and a family. I can't go running around and having fun keda for the rest of my life! I do have ppl waiting for me back home kaman. They have frozen many plans for my sake and I can't leave again. And...I don't me to annoy you bas begad I do feel like a tourist and I havent even been away for that long! Not only that but when i go back home i got used to being treated like a tourist. My visit is a special occasion. My mom cooks(she never does), my sisters spoil me, my pa buys tickets for theatre plays, my friends cancel everything and hire nannies for weekends...and soforth!!! It's not like i woke up one day and decided i want to be treated like the Empress of Japan! It just happened.
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by drew: hello everyne, im a fish out of water too. i love egypt and egyptians, i fell in love with an egyptian girl, but i wasnt good enough for her family. i accept everything but i cat explain the attraction to not only her but her entire being, her lofestyle her country her family her everything Drewwwwwwwwwwwwww... u r killing me! Did u move to egypt for her???? and why arent u good enough for her! How come? Plz do tell!!
drew Member # 11602	posted helo ngeg, i thank tyou, i m not free ith internet it is new foir me. i am living with a family in england. i am learning english. i met an egyptian girl in nepal. she from a family that has money and ,my family has none. i love her not her mkony but she feel she can be beetter and i sure she can be better
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by drew: helo ngeg, i thank tyou, i m not free ith internet it is new foir me. i am living with a family in england. i am learning english. i met an egyptian girl in nepal. she from a family that has money and ,my family has none. i love her not her mkony but she feel she can be beetter and i sure she can be better Hey drew, welcome onboard. It's ok abt the internet, u will get used to it. No worries. Hmmm, I hope u get over her. If a woman thinks she deserves better than she's not good enough for you. You will definitely meet the right person soon. Take care.
Hyenas are people too Member # 8356	posted Ya Ngeg ya setty tanneshy di wa7da sa7betna sharba acetone 3al-3asha!
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by Hyenas are people too: Ya Ngeg ya setty tanneshy di wa7da sa7betna sharba acetone 3al-3asha! teftekri? ikhs! wana et2sart wekeda wekhadt el 7ekaya 3ala alby!!!
Guest Of Life Member # 11462	posted Egyptian here, do we get finger printed now?
Asooma Member # 8611	posted quote: Originally posted by * 7ayat *: just out of curiousity, i want to know which usernames on ES are egyptian. i know that Mk, automatic, ngeg, lazeez, masrawi,and me of course are egyptians. anyone else? me 3eb 3leeky
Asooma Member # 8611	posted quote: Originally posted by Hoover The Hyena: quote: Originally posted by * 7ayat *: just out of curiousity, i want to know which usernames on ES are egyptian. i know that Mk, automatic, ngeg, lazeez, masrawi,and me of course are egyptians. anyone else? Again telepathy repeating! I was about to post the same thing. Don't forget River of Love and Someone Lost (who are one person I believe) yaslem 3leky ya MK ALL your thoughts are right of course they are the same PERSON! do you know that I'm still Receiving JUNK e-mails from this Idiot!! and the name is SOMEONE LOST
awrah Member # 11479	posted Yeah River_of_Sperms. Can't forget that one.
* 7ayat * Member # 7043	posted quote: Originally posted by Ngeg: 7ayat, I have been away for around 4 years. And yes I can always come back but I think that at my age I should be building up a proper career-in Egypt- and making lifetime friends and a family. I can't go running around and having fun keda for the rest of my life! I do have ppl waiting for me back home kaman. They have frozen many plans for my sake and I can't leave again. And...I don't me to annoy you bas begad I do feel like a tourist and I havent even been away for that long! Not only that but when i go back home i got used to being treated like a tourist. My visit is a special occasion. My mom cooks(she never does), my sisters spoil me, my pa buys tickets for theatre plays, my friends cancel everything and hire nannies for weekends...and soforth!!! It's not like i woke up one day and decided i want to be treated like the Empress of Japan! It just happened. what do you mean at your age? you're 26 ya benti, enti hatkabarina leh nah i know what you mean, you are right of course, you need to have more stability! i really like the empress of japan thing. i have another friend who works in dubai and she says the same thing. every time she goes back to egypt, everyone treats her like a queen! and believe it or not the distance from my family has helped me too. i haven't had one fight with my mom for over 7 months! deeh mo3geza ya benti! but anyway mom is coming inshallah this saturday and i'm really looking forward to having her, fights and all
* 7ayat * Member # 7043	posted quote: Originally posted by Asooma: quote: Originally posted by * 7ayat : just out of curiousity, i want to know which usernames on ES are egyptian. i know that Mk, automatic, ngeg, lazeez, masrawi,and me of course are egyptians. anyone else? me 3eb 3leeky* ekhs 3aleiya how could i miss asooma!
Automatic Member # 7290	posted quote: Originally posted by Ngeg: 7ayat, I have been away for around 4 years. And yes I can always come back but I think that at my age I should be building up a proper career-in Egypt- and making lifetime friends and a family. I can't go running around and having fun keda for the rest of my life! I do have ppl waiting for me back home kaman. They have frozen many plans for my sake and I can't leave again. And...I don't me to annoy you bas begad I do feel like a tourist and I havent even been away for that long! Not only that but when i go back home i got used to being treated like a tourist. My visit is a special occasion. My mom cooks(she never does), my sisters spoil me, my pa buys tickets for theatre plays, my friends cancel everything and hire nannies for weekends...and soforth!!! It's not like i woke up one day and decided i want to be treated like the Empress of Japan! It just happened. You haven't been away long enough and you may not be all that clear in your mind as to why your moving back. You may be moving back because you think you have to or it's time but not because you really want to. I don't believe in that reverse culture shock stuff. I spent almost 11 years before visiting Egypt for the first time. I scheduled a vacation for 4 weeks and stayed exactly 4 days and booked a flight out. My instruction to the travel agent was any flight out of Egypt to anywhere in Europe would be fine. I took a flight to London and no connecting flight to Canada but I was glad to leave. I said the exact things being said here, I changed too much and Egypt didn't didn't change and all that. The reality was that I did not change at all and that was the problem. I went back to Canada with the realization that I will spend the rest of my life in Canada as a tourist; I never felt truly Canadian. But as time passed I began to understand things about myself that were the reasons for leaving Egypt and to this day influence my life. There are way too many things to mention here that I learned about myself and my view of the world and life in general that caused me to leave Egypt and those include family problems but the point here is : - Don't go back unless you really want to be there. - Don't go back and try to live like you did before you left. Eliminate the reasons that made you leave so that you don't feel like leaving again. - Don't play anyone else's game, play yours.
Hyenas are people too Member # 8356	posted quote: Originally posted by awrah: Yeah River_of_Sperms. Can't forget that one. I love your new name Mafia man! Where have you been lately?!! (Edited: (the new name was Snow Albino) Oops, it was just Sono'sPussy cracking a joke!! Good one Sono'sPussy!)
ausar Member # 1797	posted I am an Egyptian. A Sa3eedi one to be exact.
Albino_Eskimo Member # 11479	posted quote: Originally posted by Hyenas are people too: quote: Originally posted by awrah: Yeah River_of_Sperms. Can't forget that one. I love your new name Mafia man! Where have you been lately?!! (Edited: (the new name was Snow Albino) Oops, it was just Sono'sPussy cracking a joke!! Good one Sono'sPussy!) Ladies and Gentleman the world famous Egyptian Sexologist. Ah the attitude explains so much with so little.
Traumatic for the Hyenas Member # 8356	posted quote: Originally posted by Albino_Eskimo: Ladies and Gentleman the world famous Egyptian Sexologist. Ah the attitude explains so much with so little. Sono'sPussy, at this very moment I am totally relaxed with a mud mask that smells like mint from heaven. So can we please beat the crap out of each other another day? Oh and I made a mistake, the name was Albino_Eskimo, sorry about calling you the wrong name, Sono'sPussy.
Albino_Eskimo Member # 11479	posted quote: Originally posted by Traumatic for the Hyenas: quote: Originally posted by Albino_Eskimo: quote: Originally posted by Hyenas are people too: quote: Originally posted by awrah: Yeah River_of_Sperms. Can't forget that one. I love your new name Mafia man! Where have you been lately?!! (Edited: (the new name was Snow Albino) Oops, it was just Sono'sPussy cracking a joke!! Good one Sono'sPussy!) Ladies and Gentleman the world famous Egyptian Sexologist. Ah the attitude explains so much with so little. Sono'sPussy, at this very moment I am totally relaxed with a mud mask that smells like mint from heaven. So can we please beat the crap out of each other another day? Oh and I made a mistake, the name was Albino_Eskimo, sorry about calling you the wrong name, Sono'sPussy. Always feeling inadequate aren't you?
Traumatic for the Hyenas Member # 8356	posted quote: Originally posted by Albino_Eskimo: Always feeling inadequate aren't you? (Oh boy..) (Ouch, don't try facial expressions with a mud mask on!) Sono, I would LOVE to hear those MP3s of your domestic fights. Why don't YouTube them?
' Sharon Stone ' Member # 5169	posted I am Human. Thanks God.
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by Asooma: quote: Originally posted by Hoover The Hyena: quote: Originally posted by * 7ayat : just out of curiousity, i want to know which usernames on ES are egyptian.* Again telepathy repeating! Don't forget River of Love and Someone Lost (who are one person I believe) yaslem 3leky ya MK ALL your thoughts are right of course they are the same PERSON! I totally disagree guys. Someone lost is a very decent guy. Plus, this river thing never managed to put a whole senetence in English (Not one that made sense yaani!)
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by * 7ayat *: quote: Originally posted by Ngeg: 7ayat, I have been away for around 4 years....and soforth!!! It's not like i woke up one day and decided i want to be treated like the Empress of Japan! It just happened. and believe it or not the distance from my family has helped me too. i haven't had one fight with my mom for over 7 months! deeh mo3geza ya benti! but anyway mom is coming inshallah this saturday and i'm really looking forward to having her, fights and all Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...Tell me abt it!!! Me and my mom have become bestfriends! It's scary! I've always been daddy's girl!! This was not supposed to happen I'm glad ur mom is coming to visit. It's sooooo cool. And i'm sure u'll have a blast enshaallah.
Ngeg Member # 1271	posted quote: Originally posted by Automatic: - Don't go back unless you really want to be there. - Don't go back and try to live like you did before you left. Eliminate the reasons that made you leave so that you don't feel like leaving again. - Don't play anyone else's game, play yours. Thanks a million for yr advice. I'm really touched by yr words. I have to admit u drew my attn to a couple of things i always saw from a diff angle.
Carl Brashear Member # 9196	posted quote: Originally posted by Automatic: quote: Originally posted by Ngeg: 7ayat, I have been away for around 4 years. And yes I can always come back but I think that at my age I should be building up a proper career-in Egypt- and making lifetime friends and a family. I can't go running around and having fun keda for the rest of my life! I spent almost 11 years before visiting Egypt for the first time. I scheduled a vacation for 4 weeks and stayed exactly 4 days and booked a flight out. My instruction to the travel agent was any flight out of Egypt to anywhere in Europe would be fine. I took a flight to London and no connecting flight to Canada but I was glad to leave. I said the exact things being said here, I changed too much and Egypt didn't didn't change and all that. The reality was that I did not change at all and that was the problem. I had the same experience .... went to visit planning to stay a month and came back after two weeks .... Just could not take it anymore ...I felt like I was displaced ..... which is sad ... after all it is our homeland and it runs in our blood .... we can resent the circumstances but we still love it even if it was a hole in a desert ground ....