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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Automatic For The Peoplę: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Penny: [qb] Yes they may have the right in a free society to campain within the law but where is the logic in campaigning for something that will eradicate that very freedom of the society that allows them to campaign.[/qb][/QUOTE]Very good question and in a country of Muslim majority that would be a worry but that's NOT what I've been talking about. Nevertheless to answer this questions, in a country like Egypt for example people should stop being afraid of the MB and simply campaign based on their own ideas and understanding of Islam. If people sit back and let the MB do all the work and win( in dream land) an election then they are entitled to implement the ideology for which people elected them. But what I have been talking about is Muslims in western countries. For whatever reason you and others are implyin that those you call fanatic pose a great threat to you countries. I honestly find that very hard to believe for many reasons such as: 1- The number of Muslims who are mostly "jihaddis and see everyone non Muslim as Kaffir" ( I have no clue what you mean by jihaddis) is very small compared to the rest of the Muslim community and tiny compared the population of the country and almost non-existent compared to the entire region. If you have reliable numbers I would be interested in knowing them 2- There are Laws to deal with those who advocate violence. If the Laws are weak, you strengthen them as best as you can with as little damage as possible to those rights and freedoms you cherish so much. No need for barbaric measures such as concentration camps and mass deportation. No need for racist or discriminatory laws. But again the main topic did not deal with violence at all. The problem is Europeans specifically fear the change that comes from increasing number of immigrants. At least that's the impression I get. We had a little discussion a while back when the German government introduced tests of some sorts for new immigrants to take and it was not aimed at filtering out terrorists but to keep out those who can not be Germanized. I'm guessing that the concerns you have are mostly a result of media warmongering and fear tactics employed by western ( and eastern) governments. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Penny: [qb] Muslims do not have a right to want to convert the rest of the world, that is contrary to their own religion. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes we have the right "to want to convert the rest of the world" and it is NOT contrary to Islam. Unless you're implying force or violence again in which case I have no interest in the discussion. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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