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Penny
Member # 1925
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Yes its been confirmed another outbreak of foot and mouth disease in England again. Must be serious Gordon Brown is returning from his holidays.
 
With a name like Smuckers
Member # 10289
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What exactly does this disease do?
 
citizen
Member # 1344
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Nothing to humans. It's endemic in Egypt anyway. Nobody bothers about it. I'm not sure why they panic so much in the UK.
 
young at heart
Member # 10365
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I'm not sure smuckers I know the human form is CJD, I think its a pretty horrible ilness, leaving the person virtually a vegetable and certain death as there is no cure, the last time it was here, they were saying you couldn't get it from eating beef. I remember some conservative minister feeding his toddler a burger in front of the tv cameras to proof his point! The local agricultural show was today and was going to be missing alot of the cattle because of the ban on moving them.
 
citizen
Member # 1344
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^^ That's BSE mad cow disease... not what we're talking about here. There's an outbreak of foot and mouth not BSE...
 
young at heart
Member # 10365
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oh s...t brain not in gear today. Sorry!
 
Valerie
Member # 6806
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quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
^^ That's BSE mad cow disease... not what we're talking about here. There's an outbreak of foot and mouth not BSE...

Thank god.....someone with a brain....foot and mouth is NOT [/LIST] the same as mad cow disease
 
young at heart
Member # 10365
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Ok Valerie, I got it wrong and have said I'm sorry [Roll Eyes]
 
young at heart
Member # 10365
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But if you look at the headline it says Mad cows again in Uk, easy mistake.
 
pseudovellum
Member # 13906
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don't sweat the small stuff YAH

easy mistake to make considering the heading
[Cool]
 
young at heart
Member # 10365
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Appreciate that, it was a blonde moment!!!!!!! [Big Grin]
 
pseudovellum
Member # 13906
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foot in mouth moment YAH
down to your tonsils mate
[Big Grin]
 
young at heart
Member # 10365
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Some are so tetchy [Eek!]
 
oldbag
Member # 9889
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I just hope this time they don't mass-slaughter all the animals like they did in 2001. Its so unnecessary and appalling to see on TV. [Mad] A lot of my relations in rural areas saw it for real.

The problem in the UK is that they refuse to vaccinate the animals against Foot and Mouth - something to do with EU regulations about beef selling. This doesn't make sense given the amount of other injections and so on that animals get - why single this disease out?

Not only is it unnecessarily cruel to the animals IMHO, but it also devastates the rural economy and many farmers have only just rebuilt their herds after the last lot 6 years ago.

There was research carried out after the last lot showing how vaccination could be used to effectively control the disease so hopefully they will be sensible this time.

http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTX031959.html
 
pseudovellum
Member # 13906
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quote:
Originally posted by young at heart:
Some are so tetchy [Eek!]

ignore them and they will move on elsewhere YAH [Wink]

Oldbag
It was so sad to see farmers crying and watching helplessly as their herds were slaughtered en masse.
Hopefully they will have learnt from last time and set up a proper vaccination programme.
Is F and M really rampant in Egypt? [Eek!]
 
Tigerlily
Member # 3567
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quote:
Originally posted by oldbag:
I just hope this time they don't mass-slaughter all the animals like they did in 2001.

Yes I hope so too. [Frown]


Vaccine lab link to cattle disease


Alan Schofield and Jonathan Leake | August 06, 2007


A LABORATORY that develops vaccines for the Government was yesterday identified as the suspected source of Britain's latest outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease as vets feared the virus may already have spread.

Merial SAS, a private research firm, yesterday agreed to suspend production of a strain of the foot-and-mouth virus it had been using to produce vaccines just 6km from the fields where the outbreak was first detected at Wanborough, near Guildford, southern England.

A cull of at least 60 animals took place on Saturday and animals at a second farm nearby were culled yesterday, government officials confirmed.

Britain banned exports of livestock, meat and milk at the weekend after the outbreak of highly infectious foot-and-mouth disease and halted the movement of cattle, sheep, goats and pigs nationwide to prevent the spread of the virus.

The British Environment Department confirmed yesterday it was investigating the government research centre at Pirbright as a potential source of the outbreak.

The Institute for Animal Health laboratory is a few kilometres from Wanborough and has been running several research programs into foot-and-mouth, some of which have involved handling live virus and testing animals for infectivity.

Merial's production plant is next to the Institute for Animal Health and has been working closely with government scientists to develop and test new vaccines.

Scientists at Merial have admitted to vets from the Environment and Farming Ministry that they had recently produced a batch of vaccines using the same strain as that found in the cattle -- 01 BFS67, isolated in a 1967 outbreak of the disease in Britain.

Britain's chief veterinary officer Debbie Reynolds confirmed the outbreak matched a strain held at the disease-research and vaccine production facilities.

"This is a strain ... that is contained in the Pirbright facility and is associated with vaccine production," Dr Reynolds told Sky News television.

Authorities were investigating biosecurity arrangements at the laboratory site, she said.

But she emphasised investigations were "at a very early stage" and it was too early to say what potential there was for the outbreak to spread.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who returned from his holiday to take control, vowed to work "night and day" to avoid a repeat of a 2001 epidemic when seven million cattle were culled andthe farming industry was devastated.

Mr Brown said he had set up internal inquiries to establish the cause of the disease.

It is understood that one of these inquiries will involve sending a team of scientists into Pirbright to assess its biosecurity protocols and see if there has been any risk of an escape.

A 3km protection zone has been set up in which all animals are subject to vets' inspection. There is also a 10km surveillance zone.

The British countryside almost ground to a standstill over the weekend, with scores of fetes, village fairs and agricultural events cancelled or disrupted because of fears foot-and-mouth was spreading.

The first three herds to be culled are understood to have belonged to Derrick Pride, 78, who runs a farm and shop in Elstead, Surrey.

He was said by friends to be "devastated". Sixty of his cattle were slaughtered.

Yesterday precautionary culling of dozens of animals was taking place on neighbouring farms.

Dr Reynolds confirmed that she was considering using vaccinations to contain the disease, should it spread.

In 2001 the Government's decision to use wholesale slaughter rather than vaccination provoked widespread public unease.

It took the decision to slaughter because farmers had told the Government that they would be unable to sell animals that had been vaccinated as consumers would reject their meat as "tainted".

Since then, however, the Food Standards Agency has made it clear that there is no scientific objection to meat from vaccinated animals entering the food chain.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22194502-30417,00.html
 
citizen
Member # 1344
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quote:
Originally posted by young at heart:
Some are so tetchy [Eek!]

You mean me? I'm one of the gentlest around here! [Smile]
You need to toughen up if you're to survive ES, though anyone with 'heart' or 'love' in their username is sure to be on the sensitive side. [Razz]
 
young at heart
Member # 10365
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Is your name Valerie? I apoligised to you for my mistake. She made the comment about "thank god someone with a brain" to you, referring to my mistake. I'm strong believe me [Wink]
 
LaZeeZ
Member # 10655
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Still more? I thought UK has managed to send all their 'mad cows' to Egypt already!!
 



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