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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Exiled: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sic Luceat Lux: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Exiled: [qb]I emphasize Islam because that is the code of ethics that the overwhelming majority of Egyptians are supposed to adhere by. Members may like it or not but Egypt is 90% Muslims despite the behavior taking place on the streets [/qb][/QUOTE]Dunes, if you think Islam is the solution, then you are out of touch with reality dude.. There is no proof or evidence that Islam (or any other religion for that matter) can make men or women (much less nations) more ethical. In fact, isn't Egypt more "Islamic" today than it was a few decades ago, yet sexual harassment is far worse now than it was back then? The truth is, religion and morality are mutually exclusive....not inclusive. Every man has the power to change his behaviour, and until he makes a personal decision to become a better man, religion can't do a damn thing for him. Anyway, thats besides the point and off topic.. We've had these discussions before on E.S, and it all comes back to the same things as VB and others have noted.. Sexual segregation and repression both lead to abnormal sexual and emotional development in regards to dealing with members of the opposite sex, which results in an exponential increase in the rate of sexual harassment/misconduct. Men and women were not created to be apart from each other. We are social creatures, and we need to interact with other people for proper maturation. When this interaction is limited or repressed, problems are sure to arise in more ways than one. Also, the vilification of female sexuality plays a large part to be sure. Women in Islamic nations have the unfortunate luck of being seen as both the tempters of men, and bastions of virtue at the same time. Which explains why women get most of the blame for the sexual misconduct of men...and also why "covering up" is not only recommended, but mandatory in certain nations or locales.. This whole thing really is quite complicated to be sure. It's an interesting synthesis of religion, culture and lets not forget, economics. I don't recall ever seeing or hearing about sexual harassment in the Gulf nations to the same extent as what I've heard about Egypt. There is less general malcontent and poverty in the Gulf nations though, so I'm sure that has much to do with it. ~Alistair [/qb][/QUOTE]To state that Islam is incapable of fostering ethical behavior in individuals is erroneous. Islam brought morals and piety to the pre-Islamic Arabs, a society that was generally vulgar, base and despicable to say the least. The reproach and decadence exhibited by Egyptian males contradicts the teachings of Islam. Keep in mind that Egypt is one nation and does not constitute the entire Ummah. Egypt is also not the only nation that is ‘more Islamic’ today, other nations are also ‘more Islamic’ today including the vast majority of Arab states. Yet this hideous behavior is practically more or less an Egyptian phenomenon. I once thought that poverty played a major role but I do not longer feel this way because there are other Muslim nations that suffer worse poverty yet their males don’t exhibit such vile behavior as Egyptian males. I am not setting precedents here, what I am suggesting is for Egypt to take some of the measures that other Muslim nations took over the past decade or so. I will reiterate again and regardless if what I say falls on deaf ears. Egyptian muslim women must play an integral role in Islamic policy in Egypt. Al-Azhar must support female scholars and the government must give women positions that command respect. These actions must be addressed in a religious context and criminalized in a penal code. Suggesting western ideals such as desegregation of the sexes is a silly notion given the fact that Egypt is 90% Muslim and 50% illiterate. I can only wish that the posters on ES use logic rather than notions when trying to convey what they feel is the solution. Most muslim nations are in fact segregated yet this harassment phenomena does not exists in those nations. Neither segregation nor economic hardships are excuses in other Muslim nations and they shouldn’t be excuses for the way Egyptian males are behaving. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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