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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Questionmarks: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Questionmarks: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tibe still working: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Questionmarks: [qb] Haha, but try to think abit further. It's often used in politics: the loudest or biggest voice is what majority speaks. They don't have to be right, but it has to be loud, big and overwelming other voices. Just collect a group of people who talk alike, and the minority has no voice anymore. Imagine Hitler: He was wrong, but he had a loud voice. Because of that voice the people followed him and he even got democratically elected. Majority represented HIS opinion. After years it became clear that he was wrong... [/qb][/QUOTE]Then your saying that nobody inhere is entitled to have an opinion unless they can back it up with a sientific source or statistics - wow it would be quite inhere very quickly. I cant see the point in having a forum then unless its a medical forum where doctors disguss. Sorry questionmark but i think your in deep here. Ahmed (the islamic terrorist) himself says it is tradion that they kill their offspring incase of pregnancies. Do y need any statics so we are allowed to disguss it??? [/qb][/QUOTE]I'm in an audit, so can't make it long. Sure you can have an opinion, but you have to realise that it is just an opinion and not necesarrely the one and only truth. Or the whole truth. That's my biggest objection, the majority of opinion are about a part of a society, and is not representing the whole society. CU tomorrow... :) [/qb][/QUOTE]Goodmorning. ;) Well, when I overlook the subject and the reactions; when I have to make an outline 'freedom' is the main point. As long as every individual has the freedom to make a choice, at the same time it is taken away from the black, negative forbidden/haram/not-allowed/sin box. Earlier you made the comparison with also not having a free choice in stealing and killing -which is a bad comparison- but in fact the backlaying thought is important. As soon as somebody has to act with fear as a backlaying thought ( because he/she is doing something what is forbidden/not allowed etc) it has a negative effect on the people. It works negatively on their feelings of wellbeing, the conscience. Then you can ask yourself what can be wrong with a decision made by two people,concerning the lifes of only that two people, and their feelings of wellbeing. Above that, the 'not-alloweds/harams/sins/bad-bad-bads'are even going further; a n y private contact between the two is forbidden. They are not supposed to discuss anything private, because there always have to be people around. How can this work positively on a society? What does a large collection of haram benefit to a society? It only brings in fear, and it takes away peoples selfresponsibility and selfrespect. They are considered not to be able to take their own decisions about their own private lifes. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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