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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Haqikah: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by newcomer: [b]Assalamu alaykum Haqikah! Ah well, that's a shame, as your comment made me think that there might be a chance to have a positive discussion here with a woman about the Egyptian situation for a change. It made me hope that you might be able to give me some positive ideas from some of the 1.5+ million Egyptian women who are known to be involved in this situation, as I mentioned that most of the people I know in polygynous marriages are not here! Although I respect your right not to discuss interpretations of Qur'anic verses, could I just correct your translation? I believe this is a more accurate translation of the verse you were referring to: "And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphangirls, then marry women of your choice, two or three, or four but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (the captives and the slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice." Although I totally agree with you the criteria for polygyny is equal treatment and I also abhor it being abused, I have to beg to differ on your generalization about the Egyptian men, as it appears that there are men in all the different classes who are interested in polygyny! [/b][/QUOTE] Wa alaykum as salaam newcomer When ever something occurs more than 50 percent of the time, its the general rule, of course there are always 'exceptions' to every rule. This is the case with Amina's spouse who is from an educated class. Polygamy itself is the 'exception' and not the rule since it occurs less than 5% of the time. It would be presumptious of me to claim otherwise. Regarding how 'you' interpret the verse is up to you, but I read, write, and comprehend classical arabic, the original language of the Qu'ran and I interpret the verses for myself. That's why it's not a debatable sunject for me. T The main issue I have with women that become second wives, is that often times they are opposed to taking on a third or even 4th wife. It was okay for them to impose on someone's life, but they don't want another party imposing on their life. Which leads me to believe that most often their decisions did not come from Islam, it came from their own selfish reasons, but they like to use islam to justify their own position, attempting to moralize it in the eyes of others. However, I'm not easily convinced by it. Again, if you want a person to "discuss" this matter with for a change, you should speak with other muslima second wives, and I'm assuming you are a second wife yourself, seeing that you feel so strongly towards it. If you are trying to have a 'discussion' with someone who is opposed to the concept, it will turn out to be more of a debate. And you should not use your teachings for the mere sake of debating on issues you interpret differently. I tend to take my religion more seriously than to use it debate verses that someone else interprets differently from me. These type of incidences occur with new converts who are still trying to learn it. You may want to approach one. I just don't tolerate people making a mockery of my beliefs when their heart is not true. I don't think you're like that at all, I know you're serious, I just wouldn't spend a lot of time trying to debate with others if I were you. No one ever wins a religious debate. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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