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[QUOTE]Originally posted by martha: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Samarra_Anissa: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bubblesperson: [qb] Dear Samarra-Sono!!! Now why do you keep having a go at Martha, of all people, about Orfi?!?!?! She never said it is good or bad, just that adults are free to do as they choose, which most others would agree with... You have made it perfectly clear now that Orfi in your opinion is immoral and shows no respect for anyone, including self - and so??? What are you going to do about it??? Again I must tell you to rant HERE about foreign women entering Orfi giving all foreigners living there a bad name is just not on, since nonsense!!! And unfair... They DON'T know it is bad, are never told so by anyone they meet, INCLUDING the lawyer (!!!) at whose offices this contract is signed - how could they possibly know it is such a disgusting thing to do??? Most often they are told it is the Islamic-Egyptian thing to do, different laws, different state religion, how is believing this disrespect for one's nation?!?!?! (Let alone 'the institution of marriage', my, my...). They think this is how it is done in Egypt, simple!!! IF you wish for your warnings to have any positive effect whatsever, I suggest you head to Hurghada, Sharm or Luxor in a hurry, hang out in a few coffee shops and tell the ladies on holiday there, better still, come armed with flyers and print-out's. That way you could do some REAL good and really make a difference, doubtless some women would be very happy to be so informed - and saved from disaster - by you!!! You would be doing a good and much needed service, so what's keeping you??? You are in Egypt, are you not, free to get on with this selfless mission?? As for your statement that due to this 'immoral behaviour' all other foreign women have to face dire consequences, what nonsense again - no, sorry, I can't say that, perhaps you have been propositioned or accosted by some cheeky chap - but again I repeat I lived there fulltime for nearly 2 years before I really heard about Orfi, and in all that time (come to think of it, ALL the time I lived there, 5 years, and even the last few months that I am coming and going) I have NOT had one rude proposal, been touched or something else nor have I ever been treated with anything other than respect, kindess and courtesy - and that even on the Red Sea!!!! Guess it all very much depends on how one oneself interacts and behaves... So, what are things like where you live in the country??? Greetings, Bubble [/qb][/QUOTE]I am responding to Martha, she has been on ES for a while, most likely had a number of different usernames before and still doesn't give a rip about respecting a pious society. That is what I am ticked about, Martha knows the facts and still doesn't care how disrespectful it is to Egypt. Yeah there may be a few tourist who don't understand its wrong, but with Martha its different. She has been informed and still doesn't give a rip. In all likelihood half of orfi wives probably fully understand that what they are doing is wrong. But like martha don't care. Actually I haven't been oogled or harrassed. I go everywhere with a handful of in-laws, usually with the big tall male in-law the eldest. I have never been touched, never had any guy offer himself to me at all in Egypt. But I have never been to the Red Sea Resort area and will never go near that area. I don't like mummies, just about anything to do with ancient Egypt at all. I have a heavy dislike for anything Pharoahnic in any shape or form. And while I post that you will probably have a comeback in regards to "Why even set foot in Egypt"? My response would be Ancient Egypt and the Pharoah s are dead. There is the Med coast which I enjoy and don't need to see a beach full of bare chested women and ugly men in speedos. No way in hell would I ever take the time to explain to any foreign woman why orfi marriages aren't a good idea. They already know and don't care. [b]So, what are things like where you live in the country???[/b] Minnesota is really nice. Men don't harrass women unless you are in a nightclub. Rapes happen usually when alcohol is involved, with the help of date rape drugs. I don't drink, go to nightclubs, or date more than 1 guy at a time. I even do background checks on a guy before I date them. I am cautious and actually carry alot of restraint with my feminity. [/qb][/QUOTE]You astound me Samrra. You judge me with out any facts whatsoever. As I stated before, I love Egypt and her people. Highly respect the culture. By the way, I love the history too. And never used another username on here before. But that's a good idea. I'll do it soon. Samarra, sometimes I have felt sorry for you on here the way you have been attacked, and also been angry with you many times for attacking other people. But you have taught me a lesson. You can't be serious. So now I enjoy your posts so much. Thanks for the entertainment. :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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