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can someone that knows egypt plz tell my why the egyptian men same culture same religion and all think so much differently then other egyptian men like the men from cario what i have seen and heard they are more loose in relations then the small town men my friends tell me no relations until u are married then i see some that are from cario do have relations like the men in usa its mind boggling walid says they dont but i have heard alot do this???inlighten me plz plz be nice with yr replies and no names of men i mean men in general thanks!!!
????? Member # 12336
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karemo7 Member # 386
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quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: can someone that knows egypt plz tell my why the egyptian men same culture same religion and all think so much differently then other egyptian men like the men from cario what i have seen and heard they are more loose in relations then the small town men my friends tell me no relations until u are married then i see some that are from cario do have relations like the men in usa its mind boggling walid says they dont but i have heard alot do this???inlighten me plz plz be nice with yr replies and no names of men i mean men in general thanks!!!
we think in different coz evrey one have different fingerprint ,and we are not made in the same factory as robots. i advice you , take the shortest way and ask your egyptian boyfriend ,do you make love before marriag?
marydotapple Member # 13361
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All Muslim men think differently no matter which country they were born in..I just got off the phone with my brother(in islam)..he gave me the third degree on some things..Rule Number 1 there is no if or buts or I can not explain my points of view...Iam normally wrong anyway ROFLMAO..he just says Iam moody and starts laughing..anyway Iam not complaining because its nice of his to call..
tina kamal Member # 13845
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no we do not have sex like i said where he lives he said they do not have sex until marriage now in cario i have heard that they do and its same culture and in tanta the do too have sex but just dont get caight
marydotapple Member # 13361
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quote:Originally posted by marydotapple: All Muslim men think the same no matter which country they were born in..I just got off the phone with my brother(in islam)..he gave me the third degree on some things..Rule Number 1 there is no if or buts or I can not explain my points of view...Iam normally wrong anyway ROFLMAO..he just says Iam moody and starts laughing..anyway Iam not complaining because its nice of his to call..
marydotapple Member # 13361
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I had to edit this because i made any error..
tina kamal Member # 13845
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np if there are errors i understood all of what u said!!
marydotapple Member # 13361
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I think you should start listening more to people than listening to what you hear what people say about what they hear.LOL i just confused myself totally ROFLMAO
tina kamal Member # 13845
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i hear from people who has had sex there the men are not shy they do tell me their stories
Order of the Phoenix Member # 13852
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Why do I not understand one single sentence on this thread??!!
mysticheart Member # 6838
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Well one explaination is men that live close to their families tend to follow the rules more closely where as the ones that are living away from the family tend to be more.. open. Also cairo is full of foreigners and tourists where as the smaller villages are not so there is less influence from "outsiders" there.
tina kamal Member # 13845
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quote:Originally posted by mysticheart: Well one explaination is men that live close to their families tend to follow the rules more closely where as the ones that are living away from the family tend to be more.. open. Also cairo is full of foreigners and tourists where as the smaller villages are not so there is less influence from "outsiders" there.
thank u sweety thats what i was wondering
mysticheart Member # 6838
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hehe i understand more about egyptian ways than people think i do
newcomer Member # 1056
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It is the same in any country anywhere around the world, the people in rural areas are more conservative than those who live in the big cities. And those who are not exposed to the larger society think that their norms are the standard.
However, Egypt is more sexually conservative than the US, for example, as the Islamic guidance on abstinence from sex outside marriage has a greater direct influence on a larger proportion of the population than the same guidance from Christianity has on the Americans. So yes, you will find more people abstaining from pre-marital sex here in Egypt than you will in the States, but you will also find those who don't.
tina kamal Member # 13845
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thank you for putting it in a longer text i understand i was just wondering how he can think it does not happen there in egypt or maybe he does not wanna see that yes it does happen just like he says there is no aids in egypt ofcoures not duh noone will tell u they have aids also he says there are no prostitutes in egypt what ever i seen somewhere in the net that they have probs with them in cario so he is blind or does not wanna know the truth!!!thanks everyone i was curious!!
Penny Member # 1925
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quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: thank you for putting it in a longer text i understand i was just wondering how he can think it does not happen there in egypt or maybe he does not wanna see that yes it does happen just like he says there is no aids in egypt ofcoures not duh noone will tell u they have aids also he says there are no prostitutes in egypt what ever i seen somewhere in the net that they have probs with them in cario so he is blind or does not wanna know the truth!!!thanks everyone i was curious!!
LOL had he actually ever left his village
tina kamal Member # 13845
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ya hes been to alex cario but he has a sheltered life i guess or he has never seen things like that happen
Almaz Member # 13525
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Some people 'think' it is better to put their head in the ground and ignore'facts' and they will go away. This is part of the 'rural' or 'village' concept, because in villages or rural areas, everything said in an offensive way attacks one's reputation, and it matters to them. They are trained to the 'denial' system. People that talk about their sex lives to others are not very well accepted in Egypt. In the big Cities it could be seen as 'cool'. But not by a villager 'mentality'. In conclusion a 'modern' or 'cool' or 'promiscuous' Egyptian, will tell about his/her sex life to some people, maybe foreigners because they are supposed to be more open minded, but will 'deny' it to others. Your bf may be in 'denial' or in the 'dark' because no one is telling him the 'truth' or maybe he never reads the Egyptian newspapers or magazines or never watches Egyptian movies that tackle all this, or never watches any Egyptian 'open' talk shows. OR would prefer to 'disseminate' only the 'pure' and 'good' side of Egyptians.
Almaz Member # 13525
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And about 'AIDS' and prostitutes in Egypt: there are movies made just to 'create the awareness' to the 'in denial' masses that it does exit. newspapers talk about it all the time especially in the Sharm and Hurghada areas. There is a Police department specializing in booking prostitutes in Egypt. Also Male prostitutes exist in Egypt. Egypt is like any other country in the world with its ups and downs.
karemo7 Member # 386
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quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: no we do not have sex like i said where he lives he said they do not have sex until marriage now in cario i have heard that they do and its same culture and in tanta the do too have sex but just dont get caight
MMMMMMM I WONDER WHY YOU HURRY ? ,LOOK TINA , TO BE HONEST WITH YOU , IF YOUR GUY MAKE LOVE WITH YOU BEFORE MARRIAGE THAT MEANS HE SEE YOU A CHEEP ONE . IF HE COSISNTS NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE THAT MEANS HE LOVE YOU .
tina kamal Member # 13845
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thanks alot for yals answer he said we would never have sex until we are married no if and or butts about it
Mother War Member # 8386
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Simple answer...because no two ppl are exactly the same.
hetsho1982 Member # 12012
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quote:Originally posted by Mother War: --------------------------------------- Simple answer...because no two ppl are exactly the same.
yeah..,and i'd like to add..,egyption society is so complicated just as humans themselves..,they pray in mosques and then make sins..,or they make sins then they go to mosques and cry and ask ALLAH for forgivness about these sins..,so it will be wrong view if u thought that egyptions all r just devout angels who make no sins..,and it will be wrong view if u thought that egyptions is just an evil devils who just create sins..,
egyptions = big society with diffrent concepts & diffrent opinions = humans(males & females) = so complicated creatures
and humans = not angels & not devils...,oh and not animals too
tina kamal Member # 13845
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anyone no matter where they are from are a far cry from perfect but the way he says it its like noone does nothin bad in egypt no aids and no whores i said yr crazy there are all of that in every country only u dont see it can u dont look like hear and see no evil he doesnt want to see the bad in people especiall people in his own country it happenes.when he find out hopefully wont be a big shock cas he cooses not so see all of this
Almaz Member # 13525
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why do you want to have sex before marriage tinakamal? when you get to know each other very well and both decide you are FIT for each other regardless of all the cultural social and religious differences, then you can marry and then you can feel comfortable with a husband you know, and understand, and accept as he is, and especially integrate in his culture with his family. sex before marrying him will not achieve the above. It is learning about him, his personality, his upbringing his childhood his mother his sisters. You can't know all this from chats tinakamal. you have to come to Egypt and make a living here and integrate in the Egyptian societies and learn about everything you can about Egypt first. If you do not, you are in for many many 'surprises'. Your husband knows very well about everything you mentionned. But he chooses not to talk about it with you. That is also part of his 'culture' at home and his culture in the village and his culture in the school he attended.
Almaz Member # 13525
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before marriage an Egyptian man could be different then after marriage. Once you carry his name and become MRS ..... he has the official right to protect 'his' good name. If he sees that your behavior or your way of dressing is not appropriate to his beleifs he will request you change that etc; you have to know all this, accept and agree and then marry him if you still want to.
young at heart Member # 10365
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She has said they won't have sex before marriage. I think she is just asking why some Egytian guys feel ok about it.
Almaz Member # 13525
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Some Egyptians men have sex before, and some choose not to, like some Americans go to church and some do not, and some prefer to marry and some won't and there are some Americans and some europeans that prefer not to have sex before marriage but you do not hear about them because these matters are kept private in some families
katiek Member # 13843
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I dont think its that simple, i think the difference is that some Egyptian men want their women to believe that it is not ok to have sex outside marriage..not ok for women,
Almaz Member # 13525
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Some Egyptian men , are also very disturbed katiek. Like other men are in other countries sick, disturbed, strange same thing. Some in any country get drunk, and beat their wives then make them believe it is their fault and we can open many issues, just reading the papers is an eye opener to tragedies around the world because of 'power trips'In Islam it is Not ok for men or for women to have sex before marriage, same in Christianity as far as I know, but how many people really follow Islam or Christianity the 'correct' way? Just by seeing how many ask questions on a board like this, instead of going to the LIBRARY and reading about Islam in their language is one example of how misguided people can become, and beleive a 'strange'husband with a 'superiority complex' or a bf and think Egyptians are morons and Islam is terrorism.
tina kamal Member # 13845
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wee in usa alot wanna drive their cars before buying them u know what i mean test drive it first see if they are sexually compatible as for me its not important small big what ever i love him as a person not for what he has or does not have he is never perverse his mom raised him very respectful to women
Plastic Bags Member # 13850
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quote:Originally posted by karemo7:
quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: no we do not have sex like i said where he lives he said they do not have sex until marriage now in cario i have heard that they do and its same culture and in tanta the do too have sex but just dont get caight
MMMMMMM I WONDER WHY YOU HURRY ? ,LOOK TINA , TO BE HONEST WITH YOU , IF YOUR GUY MAKE LOVE WITH YOU BEFORE MARRIAGE THAT MEANS HE SEE YOU A CHEEP ONE . IF HE COSISNTS NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE THAT MEANS HE LOVE YOU .
^^lol^^
Plastic Bags Member # 13850
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quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: wee in usa alot wanna drive their cars before buying them u know what i mean test drive it first see if they are sexually compatible as for me its not important small big what ever i love him as a person not for what he has or does not have he is never perverse his mom raised him very respectful to women
Well it depends if the cream is halal.
p.s Was it me but i could have sworn the server was down test before drive then was you .
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Egypt is majority Moslem country but different with Saudi Arabia and it is also different with Tunisia. In Islam that is HARAM / prohibit to have sex before married, and some men who lives in big city or small city can have sex before married depends on what kind of men they are. If your man respects you, he will not ask "to sleep" with you in HARAM way. But they always think that western/europen women are loose/free in everything. I hope this is not alright Good luck.
tina kamal Member # 13845
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ofcourse its not alright i know how the think about us in usa but not all think that way some do have respect towards love and relationships
angelica Member # 13794
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Here not all people think about haram not all people think about religion what's going on is that they are following traditions which are not about religion at all for example here men do mistakes do bad things and they say we are men we do whatever we want no one will talk about us but girls if they do mistakes they do in secret because they are afraid of people talking about them all people every where do mistakes but the difference is that mistakes in egypt are hidden all no not fair to say all but many have relations do everything and hide and in europe or america they do everything clearly a man and a woman are boy friend and girl friend and all people know about them but many people here just go marry in secret which is not marriage because real marriage should be announced so girl friend and boy friend in other countries is more marriage because all people know this couple is committed..and men here try to get the girls to make them have sex and they keep trying and if the girl do something they say she is not polite she is bad girl cos she had sex with me and not judge him self that he was like a devil trying to seduce her, but also there are some open minded people which are about 10 % or 20% they are boy friends and girl friends some do sex before marriage some not and they get married and also some are religious who don't want to do sex before marriage
didi_elsayed Member # 4763
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tinakamal are you really stupid or pretend to be one????Goshhh what a dumb questions you ask and i wonder how is this possible?Dont you really have any other job to do,than sit here 24 hours and asking DUMB Questions! Like a member here from long time you know very good that egyptians and the muslims in common dont make sex before marriage,why you ask then!What a bullshits,the men from cairo do it,then maybe the other part of the egyptians doesnt and etc!You really are an IDIOT....sorry but i just couldnt resist to tell you the truth!
tina kamal Member # 13845
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quote:Originally posted by didi_elsayed: tinakamal are you really stupid or pretend to be one????Goshhh what a dumb questions you ask and i wonder how is this possible?Dont you really have any other job to do,than sit here 24 hours and asking DUMB Questions! Like a member here from long time you know very good that egyptians and the muslims in common dont make sex before marriage,why you ask then!What a bullshits,the men from cairo do it,then maybe the other part of the egyptians doesnt and etc!You really are an IDIOT....sorry but i just couldnt resist to tell you the truth!
kiss off i asked the question and thats that if u dont like it u stick it to
Yanal Member # 9121
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quote:Originally posted by didi_elsayed: tinakamal are you really stupid or pretend to be one????Goshhh what a dumb questions you ask and i wonder how is this possible?Dont you really have any other job to do,than sit here 24 hours and asking DUMB Questions! Like a member here from long time you know very good that egyptians and the muslims in common dont make sex before marriage,why you ask then!What a bullshits,the men from cairo do it,then maybe the other part of the egyptians doesnt and etc!You really are an IDIOT....sorry but i just couldnt resist to tell you the truth!
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