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[QUOTE]Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sobriquet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Prince of Nothing: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sobriquet: [qb]This is fallacious assumption. Males holding hands is not the norm in the Levant(Jordan, Lebanon, Syria), nor in Babylon (Iraq), nor is it in Algeria and Tunisia. It’s not as prevalent in Egypt as it is in the Arabian Peninsula.[/qb][/QUOTE]Well I never said it was the norm, and Kuwait is not in the Levant, but in the Gulf region as you well know. I'm not even saying this has anything to do with homosexuality. I was just pointing out an observation that in Kuwait, men holding hands with other men was more common than men holding hands with women (or so it seemed to me) to expose the status quo; which is that male to female interaction is heavily scrutinized in the Arab World, and in some cases, even [b]ILLEGAL[/b]. [QUOTE][b]I think ES suffers from exaggeration because thousands and thousands of men and women could be seen holding hands in Cairo. Simply ask the men and women living in Cairo and ask them to describe the scenes along the corniche.[/b] [/qb][/QUOTE]I'll have to let VB handle this one, as he undoubtedly has greater experience with Egypt than I. I've heard all sorts of stories about Egypt on this issue, but I can't say whether or not they're true or false. ~Alistair [/qb][/QUOTE]The only nation where it is ‘illegal’ to hold hands (by unmarried couples) is Saudia Arabia. That is the only nation in the Arab World. Several provinces in Sudan also ban holding hands by unmarried couples. To stigmatize the entire Arab world is not only unfair but it is also misleading many members here. You, VB or anyone else for that matter can misconstrue or exaggerate the situation. The fact does not change and I am confident that members like Dalia who live there will call out those exaggerating and spreading lies. It seems some members are disgruntled with Egyptian society and the Middle East and whatever they say is taken for fact by those who are already predisposed with bias. This is actually problematic, because we have members here who haven’t lived in or visited Egypt and such misleading information could very well deceive them and affect their thoughts on Egypt. [/QB][/QUOTE]VB only said it was frowned upon and that you get lots of stares if you do it and in certain parts of Egypt that is SO TRUE, with exception to the corniche. ( :p ) He didn't say it never happens and VB also lives in Egypt, as he is Egyptian. True there are some 'disgruntled' with some things about Egypt or IMO frustrated by some things here but that doesn't make those things any less true. My two cents. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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