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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kem-Au: [QB] neo, I agree with most of what you said. I leave alot of detail out of posts because I sometimes assume that people know what I mean from some previous posts. Other times it's just because I don't always feel like writing alot. So I'd just like to clarify a few points just so there's no confusion to my beliefs. It's no secret that I feel that most AE's were black by western standards, but I am leaving much detail out when I say that. For one, the period of time does matter. And I'll agree that it shouldn't matter what these people looked like, but depending on where you are today, it absolutely does. As long as kings of African decent were called Pharaoh, archaeological data tells us that the majority of the population was situated in the south. Ausar has already shown evidence for this. Even up to the time that Herotodus visited AE, he had no problem stereotyping their appearance. So up until 400 BC or so, I'm putting my money on black skin wooly haired when we speak of commoners. Now royalty is another story. I'd guess the Hyksos were phenotypically different than your typical AE. If they left mummies, this would be reflected. The Greeks and Romans also left behind many mummies, and probably Persia and Assyria when they ruled. All of these groups took on AE traditions when they invaded, and if they left behind mummies, they may not be indicative of the population at large. Gadalla has already noted that AE's tried to expel all of these groups from power by frequently revolting. The one group whose reign was accept as legitimate Pharaohs were the so-called Nubians, when they regained control of Egypt during the 18th and 25th Dynasties. After the Arab conquest, the playing field completely changes. Gadalla also notes that many AE's were expelled or enslaved, and that the Arabs were principally concentrated in the North. To say that AE's were Afro-Asiatic is then a bit misleading then because it depends on when as much as it does who. At certain point it could even be accurate to describe them as Afro-Euro-Asiatic when they are known to have a larger percentage of European settlers. To describe the ancients today becomes more of a question of what was the world like when they were around. And I don't mean to stir up trouble, but this is where Wally's argument comes in. The world did not have these borders drawn on it back then. This could be why you would see dark brown/black Egyptians, Nubians or Asians. You would also find fair skinned Africans, Asians or Europeans. The AE's did have an understanding of this. This understanding was their view of race. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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