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[QUOTE]Originally posted by S.Mohammad: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Wally: [b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by S.Mohammad: [b] here is a map wally, now see for yourself where some of these place names are located. [IMG]http://www.originofnations.org/shem,ham,japheth/maps_charts/earlymiddleeast.jpg[/IMG] Now do you see why I said you are blind? [/b][/QUOTE] My brother, Do you trully believe for a minute that I have never seen a map such as you illustrate?? A map which is, I can assure you, innacurate because, if you reference my website, Phut is not Libya, but Somalia and Ethiopia.[/quote] I told you myself in another post that phut could very well be Punt, you're not educating me brother because I know these things. [QUOTE]You seem to want a debate, which I relish. Canaan, according to the christian bible, and the Torah, was a place originally inhabited by the descendants of Ham. (It's not that important to me but you seem to want to debate who these peoples were.) We know from history that Semitic peoples, and they are a race, conquered this land and colonized it. The Phoenicians, who came out of Canaan, spoke a Semitic language.[/QUOTE] No, you don't read the Bible do you, and if you do you didn't understand it. There is no Semitic race, that term is purely linguistic, not racial Wally. You're debating me using pseudo-science and racial categories that do not exist. If you carefully read the Canaan curse, all it is saying is that eventually Shems descnedants will eventually rule in the land Canaan owns, which correlated to the Jews having their Promised Land. So what you're saying is according to the Bible Canaanites were originally black people who were overran and conquered by a "Semitic" race and mixing has nearly bleached them out or there was full population replacement, correct? Please provide archaeological, linguistic, and historical evidence for this. [QUOTE]The Sudan today, if I still am in control of my faculties, is a Black African country, where the ruling class speaks Arabic, a Semitic langauge par excellance, the Sudanese ruling class is not Semitic.[/QUOTE] Poor example, the Sudanese ruling class are heavily mixed with Arab, though they still show a black phenotype and there are many Sudanese who still speak pre-Arabic languages there. And Arabs didn't replace the native African population like you're trying to asert for Canaan. Quite simple and plain, the Table of Nations does not=Table of Races [QUOTE]The Amharic and Geez languages of Ethiopia are Semitic languages, the Amhara are not a Semitic people.[/QUOTE] So are you saying Middle Easterners spread Semitic languages into Ethiopia? There is no evidence for this. At the moment linguists cannot pinpoint where Semitic languages were first spoken. Ethiopian Amharics are "Semitic", linguistically. [QUOTE]I am an African American, I speak American, a language derived from English. I am not an Englishman.[/QUOTE] No such language as "American", what pseudo-science. American English is pretty much the same as British English except that American English has received many loan words from other languages, most of which are NOT American in origin. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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