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[QUOTE]Originally posted by S.Mohammad: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Wally: [b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by S.Mohammad: [b] No such language as "American", what pseudo-science. American English is pretty much the same as British English except that American English has received many loan words from other languages, most of which are NOT American in origin.[/b][/QUOTE] Mr. Mohammad, a) you did not answer my questions regarding Usman Dan Fodio and "Sabon gari"[/quote] I most certainly already did, although I don't see why I had to answer this. [QUOTE]I am an American, and our language is American. I know this, and it has nothing to do with any science. This will probably throw you, but the people of Mexico speak Mexican, not Spanish.[/QUOTE] Americans speak a dialect of English called 'American' English. The only difference is that 'American' English has been influence by more words from people who have migrated to 'America'. The same with Spanish, Mexicans speak a dialect of Spanish, but the language is still Spanish and a Mexican could go to Spain and largely understand Castilian and Andalusian Spanish as well as be understood. There is no language called 'mexican', quit making up things. [QUOTE]c)Here is a sample reference regarding peoples inhabiting the "linguistic" areas of your "Table of Nations"; namely Syria: The name Syri seems to have extended of old from Babylonia to the gulf of Issus, and from the gulf of Issus to the Euxine (Strabo, p.737). Strabo also says that even in his time both the Cappadocian peoples, both those who were situated about the Taurus and those on the Euxine, were called Leucosyri or White Syrians, as if there were also some Syrians who were black; and these black or dark Syrians are those who are east of the Amanus. (See also Strabo, p.542.) The name Syria, and Assyria, which often means the same in the Greek writers, was the name by which the country along the Pontus and east of the Halys was first known to the Greeks, and it was not forgotten (Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica, ii.948,964; Dionys. Perieg. v.772, and the comment of Eustathius).[/QUOTE] Those dark syrians are more than likely Bedouin and not blacks. If you go to syria today the population is mostly white looking but you will find small numbers of nomadic Bedouin and Bedouin have not mixed extensively with other people. Just because they say there are white or 'leuco' syrians doesn't imply there were black Syrians, although there may have ben small numbers, smaller than the Bedouin, of blacks living there. Your ambition is causing you to see black people where none are there. [QUOTE]c) You say that the Sudanese are heavily mixed with the Arabs, do you mean with their language or with their race?[/QUOTE] The sudanese upperclass of those who identify as 'Arabs' are mixed with Semitic Arab blood, the upperclasses that is, but most are phenotypically black. Most of those who identify as 'Sudanese Arabs' have little to no Arab blood, except for the upperclasses, the same with North Africans who claim they are Arabs. both groups have only a token amount of Arab blood. [QUOTE]d) I have not only read the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, etc., but I have also studied them.[/QUOTE] So have I too! [QUOTE]e)Semitic is like Semi or half way between two conditions. The Semitic languages are half way between the Black languages and peoples of Africa and that of the White languages and peoples of Asia (for you, Europe, because I'm sure you think that Europe is a continent.)[/QUOTE] Pure pseudo-science Wally. Languages termed 'Semitic' are named so because of their relationship to Hebrew the jewish language. The study of semitic languages started out with Hebrew and when linguists found those languages that were very closely related to Hebrew they simply named them Semitic languages. And who's to say these early speakers of Semitic languages were white? Semitic has nothing to do with being halfway between white and black, thats pure pseudo-science you're employing. [QUOTE]And I have no doubt that you will respond with more silliness...It's fun after all.[/QUOTE] Wally, listen you are corect about alot of things concerning the egyptians in terms of culture and anthropology, but as far as linguistics and history you get a F-. saying semitic has something to do with being halfway between white and black languages is pure silliness. Semitic and Hamitic has nothing to do with whites and blacks or race at all for that matter. You can find blacks in both Shem's and Ham's line. Furthermore, mixing the Bible's history with science is incongruent, especially how you and homeylu is doing. Canaanites were NOT blacks originally who were overun by 'white' Semitic peoples, there is no evidence for this and using the Bible and Ham's and Shem's descendants to prove this is silliness. Not all hamites were the same race and ditto for Semites. [QUOTE]PS: I have from the beginning been opposed to the label of "Afrocentrism" because it can, as you have so admirably demonstrated, be used as a subterfuge to deny the validity of sound, logical, and irrefutable knowledge of facts. It is used to imply a bias.[/QUOTE] Nothing you have said thus far is irrefutable, believe me, though I like your persistence and determination. [IMG]http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/wink.gif[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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