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[QUOTE]Originally posted by homeylu: [QB] Originally posted by S. Mohammed [b]If they were there there would be tons on sketeal remains that resemble Africans but they do not.[/b] Keep in mind that whenever you hear me speak of Black people I'm talking about "Skin color", as I personally don't see how skeletons alone can determine a black race, especially since some Ethiopians and Khoisans have been labeled "caucosoid" Originally posted by S. Mohammad [b]using your logic, the world is only a little over 6,000 years old, do you believe it?[/b] You've NEVER been able to effectively use my logic in any of your post, so I'd appreciate it if you would just stick to your own twisted logic. Thanks. Originally posted by S. Mohammad [b]Lemba have 'Semitic' mixture(paternally) along with that Modal Haplotype you keep harping on, but lack any mixture('semitic') maternally[/b] Every last one of the jewish groups in these studies 'LACK THIS MIXTURE MATERNALLY' Quote from study: "We have analyzed the maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA from each of nine geographically separated Jewish groups, eight non-Jewish host populations, and an Israeli Arab/Palestinian population...The results suggest that most Jewish communities were founded by relatively few women,[b]that the founding process was independent in different geographic areas[/b] [URL=http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v70n6/013504/brief/013504.abstract.html]http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v70n6/013504/brief/013504.abstract.html[/URL] Originally posted by neo*geo [b]As far as Semitic and Hamitic peoples go, we need to let go of these racist classifictions[/b]and you honestly believe that "negroid" and "caucosoid" are NOT racist classifications. Give me a break please. Originally posted by neo*geo [b]I take anything from the bible with a grain of salt. It has been wrong before and we must remember that it was written centuries after Genesis, and Exodus were to have taken place.[/b] The Bible was translated and deciphered from original Hebrew and Greek text, just as the Hieroglyphics were from original Egyptian text. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Hieroglyphics much much older than Hebrew text, do we need to also take those translations with a grain of salt. I mean did Champollion not translate this text some 200 years after the Bible was translated in English? Was it not thousands of years after these events took place? Originally posted by S. Mohammad [b]The only arabs that significant amounts of sub-Saharan ancestry are the Arabs in the Arabian Peninsula, like Yemen and Oman and part of this is due to the slave trade[/b] As usual, you're always on a different timeline. The Islamic-African slve trade did not began until 700 a.d. and has absolutely nothing to do with the Lemba tribe I've referred to. The study conducted on them and the Jews trace a common ancestor 3,000 to 5,000 years ago, NOT 1500 years ago. 3,000-5,000 years ago is right in line with the time frame of the Exodus. Now here we are thousands of years later, and the Lemba still posess a "significant" amount of this gene. I honestly dont see what you mean by proving a significant amount of Blacks were in this [b]small mass of land called Canaan[/b] since its preposterous to even imagine the entire continent of Africa in originated there. And our common sense tells us that the world's population was significantly smaller 3,000 years ago. I mean why are you comparing the sub-saharan origin of the modern Palestinian, when I'm clearly using the Middle Eastern origin of the Lemba they dont relate.(That's like me trying to prove the sub-saharan origin of a Black American, and you trying to prove the American origin of a Black African, do you realize how backwards you appear). Bottomline, I'm showing that Blacks had origins in Palestine, not that Palestinian had origins in Africa!!! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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