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[QUOTE]Originally posted by homeylu: [QB] I quoted scriptures only because the thread is about Ancient Egypt and the Bible, and in some cases the Bible can be used as a reference point, other cases, scriptures are way too ambigous. I read the Bible probably in the same way I read other ancient Books by authors like Herodotus and Hippocrates, etc. from a Scholarly standpoint, I dont take everything I read as gospel. I just love to read! And I also enjoy "building' with people more so than arguing with them. But I admit I can be a little fiesty at time. LOL But nothing better than challenging eachother in a learning type environment. Now to respond to your questions. Originally posted by Ausar [b]The Tell-Amarna Tablets talk of a person named Hibiru. Are you suggesting that the Hibiru were the people in question?[/b] The Hibiru and the Hebrews are supposedly the same people. [b] Kemetians[Egyptians] never allowed foreginers to build temples.[/b] Which is why I believe the Hebrews adopted a lot of Egyptian religious beliefs, and not the other way around. Even Herodotus states that most nations that practice circumcision claim it was taken from the Egyptians (with the exception of the Ethiopians/Nubians/Cushites- who I believe are all the same people, called by different names.) [b]What secular Egyptian text can you double check that proves mass enslavement of Hebrews in the Delta?[/b]I believe the Hibiru is the same thing as the Hebrews. [b]Kemetians[Egyptians] never allowed foreginers to build temples.[/b] Which is why I believe the Hebrews adopted a lot of Egyptian religious customs. [b]What secular Egyptian text can you double check that proves mass enslavement of Hebrews in the Delta?[/b] Secondary Sources: The Exodus: The Egyptian Evidence, by Ernest Frerichs and Chronoloy of the Bible: Dr.Aardsma, these are ones I've read, you can read them and form your own opinion, as I am not here to debate the entire Bible with you or anyone else. Originally posted by Ausar: [b]My only problem is we should never use the bible as a strict reference without cross referening other secular text written from the ancient neast east around the same period.[/b] Again the thread is about the Bible, I am not using it as a "strict" reference point if that is what you are suggesting. And anything that I did point out from the Bible sections that I "referenced" was followed by scientific evidence from other sources. Furthermore, where if not the Bible do you think this whole concept of Hamitic, Semitic,...comes from that the entire scientific community has become accustomed to identifying "language groups" if not from the Biblical account of Noah's 3 sons. Has the scientific community not labeled this common female ancestor "Eve", have you never heard them speak of the "daughters of Eve." I mean don't sit here and act like science and the Bible has never overlapped. I dont take everything from any one particular source at face value and that includes anthropological findings. Hell I could find a piece of pottery myself, and come up with some logical story behind it, and call it a "theory". This world we live in is infinite and inconclusive, there will always be new discoveries, new ideas, evolutions and revolutions. Many of us have the tendency to confuse facts with theories. In the example above 1.The pottery is a piece of physical evidence that exists as a "fact" 2. How I interpret and explain this pottery is a "theory" Is the glass of water half full or half empty is a perfect example of how facts can be interpreted from different angles. Now some may agree with the person that says its half empty, others may agree with the person that says it half full. Who is correct? Inconcusive [/QB][/QUOTE]
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