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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Keino: [QB] Interesting! I totally agree with Wally on the "race" and cultural issues behind AE. I too was ignorant about the different phenotypes in Africa until I started meeting Africans (Kenyans, Ethiopians ect). They call their features Caucasian when in fact those features existed in Africa for eons before any "white" people arrived. Like Wally said the parent don't resemble the children, the children resemble the parents. I have seen numerous Africans with these facial features with dark brown skin and very KINKY hair. Most Africans are a mixture of all of theses features, "Negroid", "mongoloid" and " Caucasoid". But there are some whom looks more towards either end. In my inspection of their facial features, I have noticed that some of their noses are smaller and more narrow than any white person that I have ever seen. Their features are very distinct in my opinion. Looking at these people I can see how some of them can fit right into those AE murals that people today call Caucasian! Lets follow race from the evolutionary stand point that we are supposed to be and there will be no confusion. On the issue of culture I can identify with Ausar as well as Wally. How can one dare take a people and strip them of their identity and them call them that which they are not. If the AE said that they were African then they are African, if they said they were black then they were black. The most despicable aspect of "western-wash" is that fact that they ignore who the Ancient Egyptians say they were! This is the epitome of not just ignorance, but arrogance! I would be infuriated if any people try to define my Bahamian culture and who we are as a people or try to separate it from the Caribbean/West Indies. I can only imagine how you feel Ausar! [QUOTE]Originally posted by Wally: [b] This is the type of nonsense that drives me up the wall: "There is so much information to support both arguments..." Sure,if you leave the Egyptians themselves out of the equation. I created a website to document one (1) point, and one point only - The Ancient Egyptians' own concept of race and where they were in the ethnic universe. This has never been done before. This is a culture which left indelibly engraved in stone, who they were and what they were. But, when discussing the ethnicity of the Ancient Egyptians, you always get the impression that the Egyptians are not in the room, that you're discussing a people who no longer exist and who left no records on such a salient point as to who they were and where they came from. You always get "according to Herodotus; or the nasal indices of; the cranial measurements; and is Harry Belafonte black!!... It's all very entertaining but it is also total ........! "the ancient messages are up for interpretation." I beg you pardon? "the mural of the races in Rameses III tomb is the only document which shows..." How many Rosetta stones are there, do we need more than one? Enough already, it's now time to either put up or shut up! A) According to the Ancient Egyptians, which racial or ethnic group did they belong to? B) According to the Ancient Egyptians, which nation did they say they directly descended from? C) According to the Ancient Egyptians, from which place(s) did the ruling classes originate from? And what were their ethnic names? D) The Ancient Egyptians created a social science now called ethnology, which also contained a social bias; how did the Ancient Egyptians rank the three racial groups that they were familiar with? E) According to the Ancient Egyptians, Egypt was Kmt, what synonym did they use to refer to Upper Egypt? F) The Ancient Egyptians, who routinely caricatured foreign peoples, came to caricature themselves, and allowed for the fact that all men were indeed equal. When did this occur in Egyptian history and who was the Pharaoh who initiated it? If you can answer these questions, then you can discuss the ethnic identity of the Ancient Egyptians, where their descendants are today, and how this relates to the broader history of Africa and it's peoples. If you cannot, then if nothing else, conceal your ignorance by remaining silent... [This message has been edited by Wally (edited 18 June 2004).][/b][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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