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[QUOTE]Originally posted by supercar: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Wally: [b] Read these guys, absolutely, but don't trust them completely! [/b][/QUOTE] True; This applies to not just AE study, but necessary for anyone who seeks the truth, and wants to live in reality! [QUOTE]Originally posted by Wally: [b] Mr. Asante should not be completely trusted either, if for nothing more than coining the idiotic term "afro centrism." It was coined, I suspect, to encourage a movement against "euro centrism", or replace White racism with Black racism. [/b][/QUOTE] Again I agree, in that, the term has become synonymous with 'agenda' rather than setting the 'facts' straight. The term 'Afro' together with 'centrism', has inevitably cultivated the idea of 'seperatistism' among non-blacks (predominantly white men). This has undoubtedly brought about debates between these people and blacks, and caused white supremacists with an agenda to come on board. But I think the word was meant to be a well meaning one, the goal being the upliftment of black people by setting the truth straight about their accomplishments. As it is by now generally known, blacks have historically been underrepresented and their accomplishments to society understated. The broader aim of these so-called Afro centrists was to ensure that these facts, once acknowledged, should be assimilated in the overall educational system. This would no doubt enable people in general to realize the contributions of blacks, not take them for granted in society and thereby eliminate the alienation of blacks. To make this happen, professors like Diop and other well meaning blacks, have had to diligently re-surface these facts, back them with scientific findings and real evidence, and make them irrefutable. [b]The destruction and distortion of African culture was caused by colonialism and slavery. White racism was the ideological effect of this phenomenon. Intelligent people treat the cause rather than the effect.[/b] This goes back to the comment I just made about under representation. [QUOTE] Originally posted by Wally: [b]The accurate, scientific presentation of ancient Africa's history and its contribution to humanity should be, especially in a diverse country as America, a part of the standard curricula. It should be a requirement and not an elective. This is what Professor Diop was saying, that when the evidence is accepted then textbooks should be revised accordingly. He wasn't talking about separate textbooks... Professor Diop was NOT an 'Afro centrist', he was an Egyptologist and historian (period)[/b][quote] You are right about Professor Diop, he was a Scientist and Historian, and based his work on scientific facts and proven methods. For some layperson to label him 'Afro centrist' is an attempt to take that (credibility) away from him, and therefore to dismiss his goal of assimilating these facts into standard curricula. Naturally the job of scientists, is to disseminate facts, for which, the most effective means would be through standard curricula and not separate text books (as you've mentioned). [quote] Originally posted by Ausur: [b] Supercar,understand I am no linguist nor profess to be. I understand that some people in Egypt have stated the modern colloquial Arabic of Egyptians today is really the Late Phase of the AE language. The AE language went from Old,Middle,New Kingdom to the last phase being Coptic. Regional dialects of Coptic ranged from Sahidic in Upper Egypt to Boharic around the Delta. People insist that when the Arab invasion the language of the Egyptians shifted from Coptic to Arabic. Truth is that most rural Egyptians in Upper Egypt continued speaking such language untill the late 19th century. The southern dialect of Coptic most like the AE language is Sahidic. [/b][/QUOTE] It is unfortunate that the original Coptic language has somewhat disappeared. This would explain your awkward situation in explaining its existence today, Ausur. This has been the result of not just conquests of Egypt, but constant calculated and systematic methods used by the ruling Egyptian elite to Arabize a reluctant population. It is a classic way of suppressing the true cultural identity of people, because more often than not, members of the ruling elite have some Arab blood. So the way to make the general population falsely identify with them, would be to suppress their distinct culture, and make them feel that they are being represented at the national level. It really is a symptom of colonization. Everywhere imperialists go and settle, they’ve attempted to consolidate their rule by subduing any unifying sentiment of populations that outnumber them. To this extent, the ruling elite has been for the most part successful in Egypt. Perhaps, the question you have to ask yourself, is whether it is a coincidence that AE study is not as diligently taught as it should be in Egypt. [This message has been edited by supercar (edited 21 June 2004).] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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