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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Obenga: [QB] "Some peoples asiatic, whatever, migrated into northern african areas from OUTSIDE OF AFRICA and fused with the native populace to become a mix of different groups...u will find that along the north african coast...." What do u think that was it's an answer but hey it's not specific enough for so here lets get specific " you still didn't answer whether or not you consider Tunisians or Amizgh berbers black. " Show them to me and I will tell u who is black and who is not....u answered the question yourself. If u are talking about the modern era I'm sure u will find all types in tunisia and among berbers...whats the point here? "European isn't synonymous with 'white'" When you are talking about the devlopment and origin of European history, society and Culture there is no question we are talking white, no matter what other groups may have been walking around in Europe there will be no mention of them when it's comes to the origin of their HISTORY, SOCIETY AND CULTURE. This is what they say and NO outside (NON-WHITE)group opinions are entertained in anyway shape or form.....hence the fight of Lefkowitz and others to say there was no African or Asiatic influence with regard to the founding of Ancient Greece. Neo, u don't see that this is the case?? Neo stop playing with words, you know what the issue is here and you are reaching for any loophole u can to find a way to support a point that cannot be supported. Criteria used to define Africans is not used any where else. Hence the "coastal European point" I made that u did not answer among many things u did not answer. This is so because of how Africans were perceived by another group that had the power to spread their definition of who we are to the world instead of the subject group itself. KMT was the product of Black Africans, there need be no talk of any one present in KMT at one point who were not Black, because they are not responsible for KMTian culture. KMT was not a product of wherever those outsiders came from. They are of no consequence and in a similar scenario when speaking of European Culture or Asian Culture there would be no mention of outsiders present in the continent being so involved in the formation of their Society and Culture The point is NEO, that Africans are being held to standards that other groups are not being held too. Foriegn standards that have nothing to do with any African perception of what an African is. There was no input from Africans when these standards were being formed By racists bent on telling themselves they were superior to population that as it turns out they are a Subspecies of according to their own genetic science [/QB][/QUOTE]
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