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[QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kem-Au: [b]alTakruri, your post is very interesting, but can you clarify why you believe the land south of the first cataract was not governed by KMT? And where do you think TaSeti.nwt and TaSeti.x3st physically were? I'm a little confused by this because this would mean Egyptians recognized two different Land of the Bows. As far as using two determinatives, that's an ineresting question and I can only speculate. I doubt that they felt these locations belonged to two separate entities. There's something going on that I don't quite understand yet. [/b][/QUOTE] please reference a map while reading this, it will make things clearer. OK I will use the less precise term Nubia. The Nubians were the first to form a centralized state with a king. They controlled the area of Nubia and as almost as far north as Edfu. All this region was then TaSeti.x3st. When Egypt unified its kings took control as far south as the 1st cataract. The area between Edfu and the first cataract ised to belong to TaSeti.x3st. Now, no longer under Nubian control but in the hands of the Egyptians it became the 1st nome of Egypt and was renamed TaSeti.nwt. If you have evidence that the Egyptians had control over the region between Edfu and Elephantine before the pre dynastic, or Wawat up to the 2nd cataract before Snefru of dynasty 4 and Sesostris III of dynasty 12 and finally Ahmose of dynasty 18, Id be interested. Because each time one of the above mentioned pharaohs took TaSeti it wasnt long before the Nubians retook control of their country. It was only from the time of Ahmose onward that Buhen in Nubia became the southern border of Egypt. When the Egyptians then moved further upriver to Tombos there was fierce Nubian resistance to overcome. This was when they hit on the idea of taking the royals of Nubia for court hostages. Thutmose I extended Egyptian control up to the 4th cataract. Thutmose III had a temple built for deified Sesostris III at Semna and dedicated it to two local Nubian deities. Yet there was still some Nubian resistance to Egyptian control that Thutmose IV and Amenophis III had to take care of. Only after major Egyptian architectural sites go up in Nubia and the Nubians were won over by a show of goodwill in trade, civics, and inclusion in the royal circle did all of Nubia truly become a willing annex of Egypt. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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