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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Super car: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Thought2: [B] Thought Writes: The point is that there are Africans from the M2 branch of the PN2 Transition who do not fit the stereotypical "True Negro" morphology. There are other African's who do fit the stereotypical "True Negro" morphology and have little or no M2 lineages but carry the E3b lineages at a frequency of about 23%. Underill et al. studied the Surma and Berta people from the Sudan in a 2000 study [/QUOTE] Bingo. Rasol is right about the significance of understanding the PN2 clade relationship of Africans, but as we can deduce from the map (besides being general knowledge), physical appearance is independent of either E3a and E3b lineages. However, we can note their (E3a, E3b and other lineages) expansion: Evil Euro's rational seemed to be, that Bantu migrations must have altered the original phenotype of not only the Tutsi, but also the East Africans. Not only do studies show that there is almost no E3a-M2 subclade in the Horn of Africa people, but it is also general knowledge that there are no Bantu speakers among them. The predominant lineage among the Tutsi is the E3a one, which nevertheless, has no bearing on their appearance. Since the E3a-M2 subclade appears to be the prevalent among Bantu speaking populations, it would indeed show if one can attach any signifance to Bantu contact, as Evil Euro attempted to do. Additionally, "Bantu" is not a phenotype; however trivial this may seem, it is not the first time someone has tried to treat it as such. It is a language group. Of importance, is the E3a and E3b being part of the PN2 clade, and hence related. That aside, Thought's comment covers the base, given the premises of the rational brought forward by the author of the parent thread. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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