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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] The problem is the fact that India is very diverse even in its racial complex. Many anthropologists are still trying to determine the number of groups and exactly what these groups are! [QUOTE]Originally posted by Roy_2k5: You are sort of correct. What is true is that there was a Caucasian migration from Central Asia to India, however it was quite small to alter North India's typical phenotype. Even though some are fair, they are akin to the Iranians, a hybrid stock...[/QUOTE] Yes, the fair-skinned Indians do bear a striking resemblance to Iranians and it's no surprise if they indeed originated from Iran. Notice that the fair-skinned Indian usually come from the northern most regions like Punjab, Kashmir, and the Pakistan areas. Exactly how are the fair Iranians hybrid? This runs into the second problem of identifying the various racial groups and populations of the Near-East, which was also very diverse in ancient times, perhaps almost as diverse as India! What's interesting is that not only do the fair Iranians resemble the people of southern Central Asia like Afghanistan, but they also bear somewhat of a resemblance to other fair-skinned peoples of the Near-East, usually those of the northern regions like in northern Iraq, the Levant, Turkey, and the people of the Caucasus Mountains. Is there some connection between all these people!?? I myself distinguish Indians by their complexions. Some are black living mostly in the south, some are light skinned living mostly in the north, but many are just brown. [QUOTE]...Today, the majority of Indians are pretty much the same, and have dark skin comparable to Africans. However they have features that are more 'Caucasoid' than[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? In Western racial categories, most Indians are 'brown', not black. Those Indians who share the same color as Africans are usually Dravidian speakers. [QUOTE]Second, even though it is quite likely that the language of India was not Indo-European, there has yet to be any significant evidence that the IE tongues spoken in India originate from Central Asia. Matter of fact, Sanskrit is far older than any tongue in Europe or Central Asia. I would not be surprised if the IE tongue actually originated in India or somewhere around the Middle East, and spoken originally by a dark skinned population.[/QUOTE] Exactly where the Indo-European languages orginated is still a mystery, and exactly how they reached India is even more so! I agree with scholars that say Indo-European orginated somewhere in Eastern Europe, specifically in the steppes of Russia. My basis for this is the fact that the earliest references to Indo-European peoples all describe pale, tall, blonde, gray-eyed, Nordic Russian types. This is attested by Homers accounts of Achaeans(early Greeks) as well as the remains in the Mycenae tombs of Greece, and even the descriptions in Egyptian texts and tomb paintings of Mitanni royals. Surprisingly, even today, such types of people still survive in small isolated pockets of northern Iran; and even in Afghanistan among the Nuristani (formerly called Kafiri) people, and in northern Pakistan among the Kalash people. All of these people before their conversion to Islam, practiced early forms of the pagan Aryan religion. I do agree about what you say about Sanskrit! Even though it is an Indo-European language, many liguists do note that there [i]are[/i] certain features and vocabulary that are peculiar and distinct from Indo-European. The same is said about the Dardic languages of northernmost India that are related to Sanskrit, languages like Kashmiri and Shina. Such evidence suggests that Indo-European displaced the earlier languages indigenous to the area. Perhaps these earlier languages were somehow related to Burushaski, a language isolate spoken in northeastern Pakistan without even remote known relatives?? [QUOTE]Third, even though Vedic Hinduism spread throughout India, it still doesn't look like they divided the population into races, even if they intended to do so. Many high caste Indians are actually quite dark skinned and many light skinned Indians could belong to the lower caste. Moreoever, while Dravidians in India mainly belong to the lower caste, the Dravidians in Sri Lanka are mainly high caste. This observation breaks the Caste = Racist system theory.[/QUOTE] I agree. There is evidence that suggests the caste system was indigenous to India, even before the Vedas, since there were Dravidian peoples found who practiced it. [QUOTE]Let us remember that the Eurocentrists have been trying to put the blame on others for the mistakes they have committed in the past. Therefore we must approach this issue more critically. Although, IE speakers were not the founder of IVC, there is a possibility that they were not brutes either.[/QUOTE] I totally agree!! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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