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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [b] Okay, I might call her Black or mixed. As for Amr, I can see why he doesn't call himself Black. Cleary he is part Black but that is not the handle for his kind. It is like with Hawiian or Pacific Island people, there is what appears to be Black influences in their appearance but they are not considered black due to their apparent admixture (which in the case of Pacific island people is not actually admixture at all). Race debats are giving me a headache. [/b][/QUOTE] Actually modern pacific islanders, like Hawaiians are very mixed, due to influences from mainly from Asia and Europe. A hawaiian king: [IMG]http://www2.bishopmuseum.org/ethnologydb/250/Kamehameha%20IV%20(Alexander%20Liholiho).jpg[/IMG] The Kamehameha IV [IMG]http://www.islander-magazine.com/img/kamehameha4/cover.gif[/IMG] The great King Kamehameha [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Kamehamehaportrait.jpg[/IMG] Hawaiian Royalty list: [URL=http://starbulletin.com/1999/06/16/millennium/story3.html]http://starbulletin.com/1999/06/16/millennium/story3.html[/URL] Father of Surfing: [IMG]http://members.tripod.com/maddogx_78/madpix/dukek.jpg[/IMG] [URL=http://members.tripod.com/maddogx_78/surfers.html]http://members.tripod.com/maddogx_78/surfers.html[/URL] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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