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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fareed: [QB] Makayla, welcome to Egyptsearch. Just a few thoughts and comments regarding your posting. First, for a 13 year old, you seem to be very articulate, but are these your own words or did you get help from some grown up person, in order to phrase your argument. My reason for asking is that over here on Egyptsearch, we have heard the same comments from a variety of people, who simply copy and paste, without actually understanding the bias behind these words. Also, you seem to be so sure of your family heritage and exact composition, which I find very hard to believe, because very few Egyptians can claim such knowledge without being psychics. You have no idea, why you look like an African American and why - there may be a little more Black African heritage in your background than you're willing to admit, because the AE's imported a large number of Negroes into Egypt, and many of them never left the country. I'm an Egyptian myself, and I find your words to be very biased and hard to believe that no one helped you with this assignment. [QUOTE]Originally posted by walklikeanegyptian: [b]hi guys, just thought i'd introduce myself. i'm Makayla, 13, and yes, i'm Egyptian. there's always so much speculation about the racial makeup of the Egyptians, both modern and racial. being an Egyptian myself i thought i'd give my beliefs and see who agrees with it. the Ancient Egyptians, i believe, were pushed up the Nile from the south and they then decided to start a civilization. as it shows in hieroglyphs, they are painted as a reddish brown. i've heard people say "but if they're reddish brown they're NOT black Africans." uh yes they were. aren't most of the famous African americans we consider "black" (will smith, beyonce, halle berry) about the same color or even LIGHTER? the Egyptians named their land Kemet, for two reasons. the soil left by the Nile's floods was black, and they recognized themselves as similiar, yet distinct, from their neighbors to the south. look at the Mural of Races in the tomb of Seti I and you'll see a Syrian, Libyan, Nubian, and Egyptian. i've heard people claim that Egyptians are among the Mediterranean races (Greek, Italian, Arab). the Libyans were of Berber heritage, and mixed with Mediterranean. do the Egyptians even appear close to the appearance of the Libyan or Syrian? no, in that mural, the Egyptian is very similiar looking to the Nubian, despite skin color and different clothing style. also many Greeks and Romans had taken notes on the appearances of the Egyptians. correct me if i'm wrong but didn't Herodotus describe the Egyptians as flat nosed, thick lipped, kinky haired Africans? the Greeks were Mediterranean and their description of the Egyptians sounds nothing like anything you'll find in Europe or the Middle East, unless mixed with African. also, many others described them as like the Ethiopians. lastly, i will base this on evidence from mummified remains and busts and reliefs found recently. look at any bust of King Tut (especially the one with his head coming out of a lotus flower).you'll see a head shaped much like that of an African, full lips, and dark brown skin. and as for his "caucasian nose", many populations in East Africa have that same type nose and their skin is as black as coal. look at many of the busts and statues of Egyptians and you'll find full, African lips, high cheekbones, and prominent shaped heads. when they took the mummified remains of King Tut and made a face, sure the skin was light but contrary to believed, IT DID NOT LOOK CAUCASIAN. AT ALL. the head shape and lips clearly showed an African. the skin looked much like the color of Beyonce's. last thing. people also say that they were not black because they sometimes showed more caucasian features. much of East Africa has those features, without admixture with Europeans or Arabs. does this make them caucasian? no, it shows that Africans come with a variety of features, not just the stereotypical features. many famous African Americans don't have those features. take Jada pinkett Smith for example. "where is her thick nose and puffy lips? wait she doesn't have any, she must be CAUCASIAN." wrong. so a European with thick lips, a prominent head, and a flat nose is now negroid? i think not. you must reverse it and if you do and it doesn't work both ways, it's not an accurate statement. i'm mostly Egyptian, mixed with some European far back. i have caramel skin, thick "African" lips, a semi-flat nose, and tight kinky hair. the only African in me is Egyptian, and i'm not mixed with Sudanese or Arab either. my grandparents came from Luxor. much of Egypt's rural population is very black, just not the larger cities of Cairo and Alexandria. that's due to Arab mixture which didn't effect all of the population? and to write them all off as Nubians is wrong, they are Egyptians and are the closest racially to the Ancient Egyptians. if you're going to try to claim the Egyptians as your own race, people, please provide some evidence. ~*Makayla*~[/b][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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