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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rasol: [QB] ^ Much argumentative stasis would be releived if we would understand modern anthropology and come to grips with the following. 1) All people originate in africa within the last 50-80 thousand years. 2) This also means that all language, all culture - [b]everything definitively human is African in origin.[/b] This begs the following questions - [QUOTE]Question 1) [i]what does it mean to be 'non-african'?[/i][/QUOTE]OOA - out of africa, demarcates the zero point, or birth date of things non african. Conversely - it does *not* mark the birth date of things African. What is accurate to say is that before OOA, all human beings are African, and Africans have a history that goes back to Herto Man 150kya at least. Non Africans *share* this history - but before out of Africa, this history is - - African. There are some Europeans who don't like this fact, and engage in nonsensical special pleading for a teleological history that anticipates the coming of Europeans. Prior to OOA nothing can be said of non Africans, including "Europeans" at all. They simply do not exist. [QUOTE]Question 2) [i]What does it mean to be asian, european, native american, australian and so forth?[/i][/QUOTE]The indigenous populations of the above are the 1st human settlers to those lands and their descendants. Ancient African ancestry does *not* qualify this in any way, because it is universally true of all humans. Thus the Andaman Islanders are natives to Asia in the same sense as the Japanese. The epicanthic folds of the Japanese is native to Japan,- the Black skin of the Andamans - is native to the Andaman Islands. Malaria is native to both Japan and the Andamans...because [b]all of the above are characterestics of the native peoples in question.[/b] [QUOTE]Question 3) [i]What does it mean to be African?[/i][/QUOTE]It means you are a native of Africa. [QUOTE]Question 4) [i]What does it mean to be Black, in and anthropological sense?[/i][/QUOTE]It means dark skinned. In anthropology, it is only a reference to melanated [means blackened] skin tones. It is not a race [ie - denoting common ancestry]. [QUOTE]Question 5) [i]Does anthropology have any value if there are no races?[/i][/QUOTE]Of course it does. The function of bioanthropology is the scientific study of human beings - it is not to affirm a specific hypothesis, such as race. Race is the hypothesis that humans are biologically divisible into sub-species in which phenotype accords with lineage. Most bioanthropologists concur that this hypothesis is either flawed, or has been falsified outright. [QUOTE]6) Does 'Black' have value - if Black is not a race?[/QUOTE]If it has social value to Blacks - then it has value. [b]Anti-Kemetic hatred or jealousy[/b] is irrelevant to this, except in the self defeating manner in which hatred and bias re-emphasises the social significance of Blackness - just as anti-semites simply reaffirm to Jews the signficance of being Jewish. [QUOTE]7) [i]How is Black defined as a social catagory[/i][/QUOTE]Black is a social catagory wherein dark skin is typically a common denominator. In summation: Black need not be validated as a sub-species or race, any more than Jew, or Buddist, or Peul, or any other social-ethnic term. Nor do social catagories need be consistent, universal, objective or generally agreed upon. Indeed, most typically....they are not. That's another reason why social ethnic groups are *not* scientific to begin with. The error lies in attempting to make social terms into science, or contradict scientific fact with socio-political conception. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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