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[QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ausar: [qb] From a very early date the ancient Egyptians used copper tools for the purposes you mentioned. Agritcultural equipment was mainly from wood but architectural tools like adzes were made from copper. Bronze was also worked throughout ancient Egyptian society,and was not introduced by foreigners. I mentioned earlier that the wheel during the Old Kingdom was utilized but only for siege towers. We have depictions of wheels on 5th dyansty tombs. See the following example: [IMG]http://egyptologist.org/discus/messages/41/6067.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://egyptologist.org/discus/messages/41/6068.jpg[/IMG] See also the following post on ancient Egyptian technology: http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000018 here is a book called "Building in Egypt" 1991, with a drawing of the seige tower in there. Another error in your post is ascribing the accomplishments to Semitic speaking people. Semitic speakers donot appear in Western Asia or Mesopotamia untill a much later period. The first such people in Mesopotamia are actually the Akkadians. The Hebrew people are a much younger people than the ancient Egyptians or surrounding cultures. You also fail to grasp that pyramids and temples all had a type of spirtual connections to them that architecture within Mesopotamia did not have. From the mastaba and down the Mirs[Kemetic name for pyramids] were seen as vessels to where the soul of the pharaoh would travel to the sky to be with Wsir[Osiris]. BTW. The following is off-topic because there is another topic already on the board dicussion cultural diffusion. For discussion in Cultural diffusion see the following topic: http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=003212 [/qb][/QUOTE]Approximately 40% of Jewish males are haplogroup J. This compares quite well with Middle Eastern populations. The J haplogroup is quite old. I have seen reports that say modern day Egyptians are 30% J. J is of Asiatic origins unlike E3b (PN2). Essentially if we go beyond the language phylum of the Semitic people and talk about their origins, we seem to have Mesopatamia as the most likely candidate before these people became nomdic. My understanding is that Hebrew actually means nomadic. The people who built Jericho were a mixture of E3b and J. Jericho was one of the first agricultural cities. Again, its proximity to Egypt and the potential of trade cannot be excluded. As for the Ziggurats in Mesopatamia. I absolutely agree that they were built for differing purposes from the Egyptian pyramids. These are cultural differences. What I was referring to is some of the technological similarities. Not that there are not differences there as well and quite a few. Information could have exchanged that would have had a synergistic affect for both cultures. As for copper tools in Egypt. Yes, I can't imagine that there weren't but I have just not seen any documentation talking about the use of metal for this purpose in large amounts. Can you help me out on that? Everything I have read suggest that the Egyptians were primarily stoneage with metal used for religious purposes and such. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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