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[QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [qb] OK, I was hoping for some evidence, documentation, or original post clearly delineating your position, even allowing you time to defer for well thought response but you just rehash the same suppositions while all factual presentation counter to your hypotheses is transparently not acknowledged. I draw an unfavorable conclusion that will remain so until you point by point address the facts opposing your novel set of hypotheses. Shalom geyresh . . . [QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [qb] Osirion Do you have a criterial frame of reference for your statement "I think it is interesting that Egyptians didn't utilize it as much as other advance societies." or do you need more time to compile one? [u]Please list criteria and show which "advanced societies" implemented them and when.[/u] [QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [qb] I think it is interesting that Egyptians didn't utilize it as much as other advance societies. [/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]... all we have in terms of metal tools are a [u]few[/u] saws and chisels and [u]very few[/u] pictures actually depicting the use of these tools? [u]The Nile Valley should be littered with various metal tools if that is what they used commonly[/u]. More often than not the Egyptians used sand, wooden pegs, igneous rock and water. Copper was [u]probably[/u] used but mostly for wood work. Plenty of theories about this stuff and none of them very conclusive. Bronze came into play but much later. I don't even want to talk about Iron. Not sure but didn't West Africans develop the use of iron well in advance of the Egyptians? Still don't hear how we account for 30% of haplotype J amongst Egyptians when we know this is of Asiatic origins. Here is an interesting reference to Egyptian history in regards to cultural influence from Canaan: http://www.metmuseum.org/explore/publications/pdfs/egypt/divided/b-Sum-Outline.pdf Protodynastic Period (ca. 3300Đ3100 B.C.) --------------------- Lower Egypt increasingly infiltrated by Upper Egyptian culture,probably through trade that [b]also included goods from Canaan[/b]. Rich cultural influences also from western Asia. Political unity achieved gradually by the spread of a uniform material culture and a series of conflicts rather than by one single conquest. So what were those goods in the Delta that slowly infirltrated into Egyptian culture? Would these people of Canaan not be J type and therefore proto-Semitic people? [/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]Address what counterpoints? Trade from Canaan into predynastic Egypt is a known fact. No one has countered any of that. Wheel, Horses, Iron, Glass are all substatiated Asiatic influences in Egypt. Religious, artistic and various cultural influence from Egypt flowed into Western Asia. Specifically addressing goods flowing into the Delta from Canaan in predynastic time is rather easy to do. It however doesn't well support my hyposthesis that cultural trade led to synergestic advancement in Egypt. That I admit is armchair logic. Like I said it is simply based on the evidence of trade between the proto-Semitic people of Canaan and the Kushitic people of the Horn. I still think that Egypt was primarily stoneage society. I really don't see that a few chisels with copper tips changes that by much. I would like to see more evidence of metalurgy used by Egyptians. I going to look into that more. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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