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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^^Unfortunately Rasol, this is problem we are encountering. Skin color is all a matter of Semantics. [QUOTE]I said: We musn't forget that many, if not most people in the northern part of the Near-East [b]today[/b] are light or pale-skinned.[/QUOTE]By this statement, I meant many people TODAY in modern times, but of course the situation in ancient times was much different as can be said with Egypt. [QUOTE]Originally posted by oliva: [qb] BSSSSSS! They are not pale nor were they anything near "black"...and neither were egyptians... here is some palestinians[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes most are [i]just[/i] light while some are pale. But again, ancient times were much different and the Egyptians would agree: [b]Tut[/b] [IMG]http://www.geocities.com/jerod_motley/tut1.jpg[/IMG] [b]Tiye[/b] [IMG]http://www.egiptologia.com/mujer/amarna/fig02.jpg[/IMG] [b]Pre-Persian Iranians:[/b] [IMG]http://www.pitt.edu/~megst20/persia3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.pitt.edu/~megst20/persia4.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/images/babyloian3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/images/babylonian.jpg[/IMG] Of course just because most Iranians TODAY are not black doesn't mean there weren't any black Iranians before. But some people like Oliva are just living in DENIAL [QUOTE]Originally posted by ausar: The area historucally has had lots of interaction with people from the Northern Mediterranean. Palestines themselves are mixtures of fellahin[farmers the lived in Palestine],bedouin Arabs,Upper Egyptians and Sudanese[I have sources that confirm this],Greeks,Armenians,and [b]Circassian[Mameluke] from eastern Europe.[/b] The Philistines originated from modern day Crete and settled in many areas of modern Palestine. According to Donald Redford in Egypt,Caanan,and Israel [b]you had migrations of Indo-European speaking people like the Mitanni and Hurrians that settled in the Levant region.[/b][/QUOTE]This would explain peoples in these areas who have pale complexions and light-colored hair. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Underpants Man: [qb] All "blacks" have brown skin, so I don't know what you mean by this.[/qb][/QUOTE]Again, the issue is semantics and what [i]I[/i] meant by 'brown' was hispanic 'brown' or Southeast Asian brown or as I said, the brown found among most northern Indians. [QUOTE][qb]I would guess that, prior to the incursion of Central Asians into south Asia a little before 3000 BCE, all people in south Asia had dark complexions, possibly within the range of today's "black Africans". They wouldn't need lighter skin in the hot climate of southern Asia.[/qb][/QUOTE]You are right about this, but I postulate that there have been migrations from Central Asia into southwest and southern Asia long before the Indo-European speakers arrived. [QUOTE]Oliva says:[qb] black people are NOT brown..so how the hell would that make sumerians black. Rediculous.[/qb][/QUOTE]Again, semantics. when most people say "brown" they mean the brown that Oliva is speaking i.e. pale brown like north Indians, hispancs, etc. But we musn't deny that many people we call 'black' also fall within a range of browns like chocolate brown to mahogany etc. This is why the issue of 'race' as it relates to color can be very confusing and always ridiculous, because people can use semantics to their own bias purposes. Recall the crazed 'mixed-up' troll Salsassin who calls a Dravidian man with the exact same complexion as a West Africa, 'brown' but [i]never[/i] 'black'!! :rolleyes: [/QB][/QUOTE]
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