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Meskel
Member # 11979
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http://www.tosczak.ca/tosczak/deep_ancestry.htm



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Underpants Man
Member # 3735
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Odd, "Eurasian" Adam apparently didn't live in Eurasia!
 
Djehuti
Member # 6698
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^^Underpants is correct. Although I believe the name was to imply the common ancestor of Eurasians, it is misleading in that the common ancestor of all Eurasians was African.

Also, the map appears to be somewhat outdated as recent info shows the Out-of-African migrations to take place across the Gulf of Aden and into Southern Arabia and from there to India.

Also, the M35 lineage shown leaving the Nile Valley is not descended from the Out-of-African lineages that all Eurasians share but was developed much later in Africa. Thus, its expansion out of Africa was by recent African migrants.
 
alTakruri
Member # 10195
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To show the Eurasian Adam the M168 right hand
branch should be followed then its left hand
branch. That'd lead to M89. But even then the
beachcombing ancestors of coastal south and
east Asians wouldn't have M168 => M89 roots.

So M168 is considered the ancestor of all extra
African male lineages as well as many intra
African male lineages.

On the standard version of that type of map, as
on the Genographic Project site, "Adam" is pin
pointed between the Great Lakes and the Horn
diverging from M91 along with M60.

Tosczak's map is accompanied by text on his site
that recognizes "Eurasian Adam" as an African Man.
quote:
The very widely dispersed M168 marker can be traced to a single individual—"Eurasian Adam." This African man, who lived some 31,000 to 79,000 years ago, is the common ancestor of every non-African person living today. His descendants migrated out of Africa and became the only lineage to survive away from humanity's home continent.

M168 gave rise to M174, an ancient African lineage that first appeared in a direct descendant of "Eurasian Adam." This lineage likely accompanied M130-bearing populations on their great migration some 50,000 years ago.

M174 is one of two African lineages defined by the presence of the YAP polymorphism—the other is M96.

The origins of M96 are unclear, though geneticists believe that the marker arose in northeast Africa. Further data, such as that collected by international projects currently underway, may shed light on the precise origin of this lineage.


M168 => YAP => M174
and
M168 => M130
are usually ignored by Euro perceptive folk because
those lineages don't lead to European or north and
central Asians. Hence the fascination with the
M168 => YAP => M96 => M35 line and the attempt
to make haplotypes associated with M35 into a full
fledged clade disassociated with Africa.

But why disassociate it from holoceneAfrican humanity? Perhaps because
quote:
the E3b line of descent is most heavily represented in Mediterranean populations. Approximately
  • 10 percent of the men in Spain belong to this haplogroup, as do
  • 12 percent of the men in northern Italy, and
  • 13 percent of the men in central and southern Italy. Roughly
  • 20 percent of the men in Sicily belong to this group.
  • In the Balkans and Greece, between 20 to 30 percent of the men belong to E3b, as do nearly
  • 75 percent of the men in North Africa.
The haplogroup is rarely found in India or East Asia. Around
  • 10 percent of all European men trace their descent to this line. For example,
  • in Ireland, 3 to 4 percent of the men belong;
  • in England, 4 to 5 percent;
  • Hungary, 7 percent; and
  • Poland, 8 to 9 percent.
  • Nearly 25 percent of Jewish men belong to this haplogroup.


 



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