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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] Well, it only works if you believe in FANTASY stories as REAL history. Real history says that ancient Western European civilization that originates among the mountain valleys of Western Europe and "Germania" is a FARCE. Civilization originated THOUSANDS of years prior to that in lands to the South and East and had nothing to do with the "white" Elves of the Western European forest. In fact, the ULTIMATE fantasy is to think of Elves as western European. In all reality all the tales of the elves ACTUALLY are reflections on ancient cultures of Africa, Asia and elsewhere, who DID worship nature. The dwarves refer back to the ancient anu and Twa of Africa and elsewhere. The hobbits are the small people that some scientists say existed in places as far away as Australia. So all this talk about racism in the Lord of the Rings only reflects a FANTASY of Europe being the ORIGIN of high culture and civilization when it wasnt. So no matter the racial overtones, it is still PURE FANTASY to me. However, what this FANTASY story does reflect is a FANATICAL desire among Western Europeans to put THEMSELVES on top of everyone else as a way of GETTING BACK at everyone else for being the LAST to become "civilized". In this way such fantasy stories become the base "truth" that Europeans hold self evident and are the keys to their manifest destiny. NONE of it is REAL, but the IDEA is what counts, which states that Europeans are must become the Kings of Kings on the world stage and return power and glory to Europe, regardless of whether ancient Europe was the HOME of civilization or not, basically WHITE supremacy 101. Actually, to the reality is that the Myths reflect a way of Europeans trying to deny the fact that the TRUTH of history was that Western Europe was on the RECIEVING end of culture and CIVLIZATION and that they were BACKWARDS compared to their neighbors in the South and East. Their embarrassment at this state of BACKWARDNESS compared to Rome, Greece, Africa(Egypt, Sudan, ets) and ultimately the golden age Islamic empires of the Moors and later the Ottomans, is what sparked their desire to become "masters" of the world, based on a FANATICAL claim of racial purity (which never existed in fact). Western Europeans are descendents of populations who migrated North and were basically CUT OFF from the developments of civilization that were occurring in WARMER climes to the South and East. I am not claiming that the Europeans are INFERIOR, however. But I am claiming that much of Europe's claim to greatness is based on a whole BOATLOAD of B.S. that is NOT based on any historical fact and that Western Europe was the LAST to become civilized among men, not the FIRST. This mythology of Western Europeans being the ORIGIN of civilization is behind the RACISM and oppression that parades around as civilization. It can be seen as expressed in the Aryanist doctrines, the Christian attitude toward indigenous people and the ECONOMIC exploition of indigenous populations. ALL of it has its origins in the MYTHOLOGY of Western Europe being the ORIGIN of civilization and culture, when it WAS NOT. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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