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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Supercar: [QB] As said time and again, the relatively 'pale' skin seen in coastal "Berber" speaking groups of northwest Africa can be attributed to gene flow from across the Mediterranean sea in southern Europe, particularly the Iberian peninsula. Nothing is more apparent about this than the heterogeneity of a single predominantly 'Berber' speaking nation, thereby making the populations therein bio-analytically 'intermediate' between the much darker sub-Saharan groups and the palest skin northern Eurasians, with 'berber' groups ranging from 'dark' skin or 'tawny' to relatively 'pale' [on par with southern Europeans] groups, just as they are from a genealogical standpoint and in cranio-metric trends. No artificial boundary can be drawn between the populations in the aforementioned skin tone gradients. 'Berber' languages come from an East African basal language, and so, even the 'pale' looking ones must not necessarily mislead one to assume that they are 'non-indigenous', although obviously some may well be, particularly self-proclaim 'Arabs' amongst them: [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=002515][i]If anyone wants to know what 'old Berber' groups likely appeared, just look at the Siwa group. Also look at examples in Tunisia itself; from the members of the Kesra group that I've seen, many exhibit the light brown in skin tone. These visible variations, while clinal in coastal North Africa, should be instructive about the role of 'climate' on skin tone; temperature has little do with native skin tone gradients, while UV radiation and complimentary dietary vitamin D certainly do. The "lightest" in coastal North Africa, particularly in the west African portions, is very likely secondary to gene flow from their northern neighbours in southern Europe.[/i] [link to another but related discussion][/URL] That said, in order to understand these north Africans in a 'complete' African context, it is useful to re-emphasize the placement of 'Berber' speaking groups into a broader historical [and pre-historical] context, encompassing both bio-anthropology and cultural anthropology, as being done here [thus far, largely with the latter ]. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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