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[QUOTE]Originally posted by qoucela: [QB] I'm not sure who is bolding parts of my text where I have not placed it in bold, but I wish you would stop doing it. I have had my work modified in publications before and inaccurately plagiarized and I am not much fond of it. My son needs to use the computer so this will be the last time I respond tonight. I already responded to your finding that genetics is confirming the eastern African and Bedja affiliation of the Tuareg, which I spoke about in my article on the Berbers in Dr. Van Sertima's the Golden Age of the Moors without the help of the genetics that has arisin in the last 20 years. My name is Dana Reynolds-Marniche. The surname Marniche is Kabyle and having lived among them I've come to conclude they have much more affiliation with Greeks Romans and EuroMediterraneans than they do with Tuareg and the bulk of other dark Amazigh. It is my understanding that Berber is part of the Afro-Asiatic linguistic grouping and that scholars have already discovered that the Tamashek dialect is related to other dialects of that group in and outside of Africa. The Tuareg name for their written script is Tifinagh meaning "belonging to the Phoenicians" (in case you didn't know it). Finally - documented claims of the Lamtuna (Aulemmiden) Tuareg of Niger to Sir Richmond Palmer in the early 20th century were that they once lived in and came from Asia Minor (Levant) centuries before Alexander the Great. Other European explorers in the early 20th and 19th centuries, as well as many previous ones have been told similarly by the Tuareg and Bedja, Danakil and certain Ethio-semitic speakers. And yes, much of the early Arabian tradition does say that possible ancestors of the Tuareg - the tribes of Ad, Chadad, Thamud, Amlakhu, Pharis, Gathar Djurdjan (Triton)to name a few were either kicked out or exterminated from Arabia, and that after settling in and ruling Egypt "that many advanced to the Maghrib". Again, I'll have to say I believe making assumptions about modern population movements has got to take into account cultural and ethnohistorical contexts and just because a certain population is or isn't present in Africa or Arabia now doesn't mean they were or were not in a certain location 3000 years ago. Those who want some biography can read my articles in Dr. Van Sertima's books and start with those. Otherwise they can wait til I get my web-site back up again in which I will provide all of the evidence that is available to us as researchers. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Supercar: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by qoucela: I don't consider the fact that the bulk of the ancestors of the Tuareg could have lived between the Gulf of Ailah and the southern Levant between 3000 years ago evidence of recent intrusion. However, most of the evidence that shows a connection to populations of the area is mostly archeological, physical anthropological, ethnohistorical, linguistic and logical. Sorry, there is no model to invoke here, [b]but you can provide your multi-disciplinary model showing where the Tuareg tribes came from since you've implied there is one.[/b][/QUOTE]You bet. [b]Lineages[/b]: [CODE] Y chromosomes---> Hg E - African . mtDNA-----------> Haplogroups L1, L2, L3,U6 - African[/CODE][b]Language[/b]: "Berber"/Tamazigh - strictly African [b]Cultural anthropology[/b]: Documented accounts involving "Tuareg" groups: all place them strictly in Africa at the time of documentation. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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