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[QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [QB] No. The other sources in my [i]Guessing Game NA NRY Marker TMRCAs[/i] table -- namely: Arredi, Cruciani, and Semino -- all do very explicitly disagree with Bosch over E3b2-M81 "youth" compared to E3b1-M78. [CODE] -------------------------------------- | | M81 | M78 | OLDER | |----------|---------|---------|-------| | Bosch | 19,000 | 7,600 | M81 | | Arredi | 4,150 | 4,480 | M78 | | Cruciani | 5,600 | 23,200 | M78 | | Semino | 8,600 | 14,900 | M78 | --------------------------------------[/CODE]Again, buttressing my point that the ages of the markers is an 'educated guess' between the geneticists. Take your pick, or, judiciously draw your own conclusions (as you have already done). I chose Arredi's genetics to dovetail with Williamson's linquistics. They fit hand in glove. The others' gloves are the kind the Cochran firm would love. But I invite the use of any other geneticist than Arredi and any other linguist than P. Behren whose figures are really within the same near hit range of each other in explanation of both the genetic expansion of North African markers and lingual spread of the "Berber" language. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystery Solver:[qb] If Bosch et al. posit a younger age for M81 than that of E-M35 and E-M78, then this would be in agreement with many of the other cited sources, not in disagreement. As for the Bosch et al.'s supposed "Upper Paleolithic" extraction of "Berber" paternal lineages, I've already taken issue with that multiple times now, including in that thread you started about 'Tamazight language being Afrasan'. Outside of Bosch et al., I've rarely seen genetic studies posit an Upper Paleolithic expansion age for E-M81, as opposed to being of a Neolithic one.[/qb] [/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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