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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mustafino: [QB] Oh hogwash. I made one mistake, like the many you have made. Like your claim no one had left Africa 80,000 years ago. STFU dumb ass loser. You still haven't addressed the latitude similarity. You do realize that the ancestors of contemporary Berbers in northwest Africa, came there fairly recently, ca. 2ky ago before present, and the oldest of these groups, are deemed to be amongst the Siwa group, ca. 5ky ago before present...don't you? Contemporary "Berber" groups carry few upper Paleolithic lineages [e.g. from the maternal side, the African U6 frequency is relatively low]; they do however carry downstream paternal lineages of upper Paleolithic extraction [i.e. E3b [E-M215] downstream lineages]. The ancestors of "Berber speaking" groups, are therefore apparently not the earliest people who arrived in North Africa. [QUOTE]Take note that the "old Berber speaking" groups, like the Siwa, are actually heavily melanated, as are the Saharan groups. Coastal northwest African "Berber" groups, many of whom are swarthy looking, but nonetheless relatively paler than other groups below them, are an outlier, likely because of considerable Eurasian input...largely on the maternal side.[/QUOTE]I was arguing that the distance was the same. According to Oppenheimer North Africa got populated at about the same time as Tasmania. Feel free to show where in your map Tasmania is farther north than South Africa. Also feel free to show where Egypt is any closer to the Equator than Botswana. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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