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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] Can these numerous Blacks in this area in ancient times explain the presense of Rl in this region? Concomitant Replacement of Language and mtDNA in South Caspian Populations of Iran - all 6 versions » I Nasidze, D Quinque, M Rahmani, SA Alemohamad, M … - Current Biology, 2006 - Elsevier ... Haplogroup J2 (M172) was found at high frequency in both groups, as was haplogroup R1 (M173); together, these two haplogroups account for more than 50% of ... [/qb][/QUOTE][b]LMAO[/b] :D Your ignorance of scientific facts and your distortion of findings continues to humor me! [QUOTE][qb] [b] Xerxes [/b] [IMG]http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/images/xerxes_darius_pharnaces.jpg[/IMG] William Leo Hansberry, African History Notebook, (1981) Volume 2 noted that: [i][qb] In Persia the old Negroid element seems indeed to have been sufficiently powerful to maintain the overlord of the land. For the Negritic strain is clearly evident in statuary depicting members of the royal family ruling in the second millenium B.C. Hundreds of years later, when Xerxes invaded Greece, the type was well represented in the Persian army. In the remote mountain regions bordering on Persia and Baluchistan, there is to be found at the present time a Negroid element which bears a remarkable resemblance to the type represented on the ancient mounments. Hence the Negritic or Ethiopian type has proved persistent in this area, and in ancient times it seems to have constituted numerically and socially an important factor in the population" (p.52) . [/i] [/qb] [/qb][/QUOTE]And now a citation from a psuedo-historian like yourself. [QUOTE][qb] Check Out the Persian King Observing the Whites he has captured in Battle [IMG]http://visopsys.org/andy/essays/img/bisutun-2.jpg[/IMG][/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] At your description echoing that of racist whites who claim Egyptian reliefs showing the Pharoah observing "blacks" he has captured in battle!! Most of the enemies of the Persians are Iranian speaking tribes from central Asia closely related to the Persians themselves! But in another post you claimed that all these Central Asians were black, so where do these "whites" come from?!! [QUOTE][qb]Only if you are talking about the contemporary Farsi people who live in Iran. The original Persians, known as Old Persians in many text were clearly not whites.[/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] Call them what you want, but it has been proven that modern day Farsi (Parsi) are genetically, phenotypically (through artwork), and archaeologically the direct descendants of ancient Persians and that Persians and other Iranian speaking peoples were NOT black!! The indigenous Elamites were! [QUOTE][qb]The Persians as seen in their monuments can not be classified as white. Granted they did call themselves Aryan, 'but this term meant noble, noble descent. It was the Europeans who took the word and applied it to white nationalities.[/qb][/QUOTE]Again, all of the Persian monuments are stone and unpainted so I don't know how you can use such depictiions to make [i]any[/i] claims on color black or white in the first place!! The Persians are for the most part not much different from their modern day descendants-- the Farsi! Most Persians although would not be exactly called 'white' like Europeans [i]are[/i] relatively fairskinned. Perhaps the ONLY accurate statement you made was the fact that 'Aryan' meant pure or noble and had nothing to do with color-- that was something Europeans in the early 1900s associated with the definition. Note, that the term 'Aryan' is a title that Indo-Aryan speakers of India also use for themselves no matter what complexion they have! [QUOTE][qb] Darius I(Darayavaus) reign 522-486. Darius conquered India and Thrace. He received tribute from the Ionians, Aeolians, Carians, Lycians and other Europeans [IMG]http://www.ahura.info/images/iran/darius.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]Another contradiction since in other posts you claimed all those people paying tribute were blacks! Now you say they are whites! [QUOTE][qb] Ancient Greek Subject of the Persians. Note the hair and Nose is nothing like that of the Persian.[/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] Another contradiction. In other posts you claimed Greek curly hair is proof they were blacks, now you say the Greeks are not black but the Persians were! Make up your silly mind, man! [QUOTE][qb] [IMG]http://www.livius.org/a/iran/persepolis/people/yauna.JPG[/IMG] The pictures don't lie the Persians were not white. Use of the term Persian to refer to comtemporary Iranians is a lie manufactured by Eurocentric scholars and Farsi people either 1) connect themselves to the ancient history of the Persians; and or 2) to deny the ancient history of Black and African people.[/qb][/QUOTE]The only one lying here is YOU. Again non of the pictures show what color the people were, and NO discipline-- archaeology, anthropology, linguistics, [i]and[/i] genetics, show that the Persians (or even the Elamites who were black) were African!! On the contrary, all disciplines show there was continuity from ancient Persians to modern day Farsi! The Farsi did not displace the Persians because they [i]are[/i] the Persians or rather their modern-day descendants as even historical records show!! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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