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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Afrosaxon: [qb] I know this an old thread but the point made below is so true,not just the maya but many other groups had different concepts of time,in africa time was considered generative - it is something that is generated day after day.It was NOT linear.[/qb][/QUOTE]That's true and I whole heartedly agree, but what does that have to do with the topic of this thread. Remember that Wally got scolded for using such a blatant red-herring. [QUOTE][qb]We are so colonised in our thinking these strange new terms "bantu","nilotic" "semetic" etc the ancient africans did not use these terms. If we want to understand egypt we must have some knowledge of african anthropology and african percepetions of themselves and those surrounding them.[/qb][/QUOTE]I agree that we should not rely too much on foreign concepts and instead use the native terms and phrases of the peoples in discussion, but I don't see the problem in still using the linguistic terms of Westerners such as 'Bantu', 'Nilotic', etc. True they are not native to the African peoples they describe but they are in no way negative or desparaging, and they are also still linguistically valid not to mention convenient. Unless you have better terms to use. [QUOTE][qb] Dr. Wilhelm Bleek used the term "Bantu" in it's current sense in 1862. This term has caused more insanity and death then people can bear to imagine [rwandan genocide for a start] as did terms like "hottentot/bushman et al" in the namibian genocide. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yours is a false cause argument. The name 'Bantu' itself is a perfectly valid linguistic term and one that is actually native in origin unlike the other Western linguistic designations. It is [i]not[/i] the term itself that is the problem so much as its political and blantanlty erroneous usage. Thus [i]all[/i] Rwandans both victims and perpertrators of the genocide were Bantus. Just as the victims of the Holocaust were as much Germans as the perpetrators. The terms that were the [i]real[/i] problem were the bogus racial ones such as "Hamite" in the case of Rwanda and "Aryan" in the case of Germany. And yes it's true that "Hottentot/bushmen" were colonialists terms, the racial motivation behind them were same. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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