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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Naga Def Wolofi: [QB] [QUOTE]So how did the extrapolation form itself around the ancestors so much so that it persists to this day? You way out is much to fast, meaning you must have some proof there is no deity given the nature or your specific comment. Your belief leaves you stranded just like everyone else who is curious about it. [/QUOTE]It's called law and government reprimand and propaganda. Wars, Swords, Guns, Imperialization, religious books do I need to go on? Why do people still believe in Santa Claus; myths last as long as they are continued to be built by those who have power and interest in them? Now I will ask you to present evidence of a God, now of course you CAN'T present evidence of a God because there isn't one!!! So was that too hard?!?! [QUOTE]My issue isn't whether scientists, or some scientists, will be atheistic, that's just another human perception. Mine is how can Naga Def Wolofi allow himself to be hamstrung by a belief he doesn't know to be true either, that is, the non-existence of a Deity. [/QUOTE]Read the above reply lol. Positive claims warrant the burden of proof. [QUOTE]Which geographical area of the world are you referring to and how would that government control someone who has a belief in God in the sense they would be ''helpless and blind''? Keep in mind I'm not talking about an individual, or some individuals' strict adherence to religion brought on by themselves in many cases. [/QUOTE]This is actually a good question. I am referring to Christians and Muslims considering that 5 out of 6 billion people believe in this one deity from the two religion's books. They all believe due to violence and government and if you trace their family history back no matter how far back it goes they were forced to convert one way or another. [QUOTE] So Naga Def Wolofi says those who accept a Deity shouldn't have arrived at their conclusion because of their ignorance of the universe? I confess ignorance here. How are they related? [/QUOTE]My reply about the ignorance to the universe was to Djehuty's comment about how our ignorance of the Universe somehow is correlated to the possibility of a God. How are they related? Ask him. [QUOTE]I have questioned spirituality myself, and still do, since the brain is a very complex piece of equipment. Yet someone's spirituality is their truth, not mine. It isn't mine because I don't know it. Having said that why should the concept of spirituality upset you, other than the fact it, well, does (details). A lot of people don't see the need for denominational acceptance but feel in tune with themselves to such a degree they call it spiritual. [/QUOTE]I am not here to hear some testimony. I don't see what this has to do with anything I said. [QUOTE]With regards to what? [/QUOTE]The fact that spiritual vs religious belief in a God is no different therefore it's appeal to sympathy-like tone bears no merit in the contention. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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