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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Naga Def Wolofi: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Naga Def Wolofi: [qb] ^^^This has no bearing on the question of a God existing or not which is the point of contention. Ignorance of the universe does not justify ignorance of how a God concept came into existence in human history. By the way what is a "spirit" and what is "spiritual"? I can't stand people that say "I am not religious, but I am spiritual" <---that is just an ignorant cop out really. [/qb][/QUOTE]You fail to realize that the origin of the concept of God is rooted in the concept of spirit since 'God' by definition is a spirit. If you don't know what a spirit is regardless of if you believe in it or not, then your ignorance is greater than I thought. :eek: A spirit is an entity that exists without physical form, but something more abstract usually energy. Science has not proven either way that God as a supreme spiritual entity or force in the universe exists. By the way, what I said was I'm not [i]that[/i] religious period. I never said anything about being not religious "but spiritual". If you're going to try to quote me at least do so properly. [/qb][/QUOTE]Please cite the source that God means spirit. I have seen nothing of the sort. Please define spirit. The definition you gave is not attested for: spir·it /ˈspɪrɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spir-it] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. the principle of conscious life; the vital principle in humans, animating the body or mediating between body and soul. 2. the incorporeal part of humans: present in spirit though absent in body. 3. the soul regarded as separating from the body at death. 4. conscious, incorporeal being, as opposed to matter: the world of spirit. 5. a supernatural, incorporeal being, esp. one inhabiting a place, object, etc., or having a particular character: evil spirits. 6. a fairy, sprite, or elf. 7. an angel or demon. 8. an attitude or principle that inspires, animates, or pervades thought, feeling, or action: the spirit of reform. 9. (initial capital letter) the divine influence as an agency working in the human heart. 10. a divine, inspiring, or animating being or influence. Num. 11:25; Is. 32:15. 11. (initial capital letter) the third person of the Trinity; Holy Spirit. 12. the soul or heart as the seat of feelings or sentiments, or as prompting to action: a man of broken spirit. 13. spirits, feelings or mood with regard to exaltation or depression: low spirits; good spirits. 14. excellent disposition or attitude in terms of vigor, courage, firmness of intent, etc.; mettle: That's the spirit! 15. temper or disposition: meek in spirit. 16. an individual as characterized by a given attitude, disposition, character, action, etc.: A few brave spirits remained to face the danger. 17. the dominant tendency or character of anything: the spirit of the age. 18. vigorous sense of membership in a group: college spirit. 19. the general meaning or intent of a statement, document, etc. (opposed to letter): the spirit of the law. 20. Chemistry. the essence or active principle of a substance as extracted in liquid form, esp. by distillation. 21. Often, spirits. a strong distilled alcoholic liquor. 22. Chiefly British. alcohol. 23. Pharmacology. a solution in alcohol of an essential or volatile principle; essence. 24. any of certain subtle fluids formerly supposed to permeate the body. 25. the Spirit, God. –adjective 26. pertaining to something that works by burning alcoholic spirits: a spirit stove. 27. of or pertaining to spiritualist bodies or activities. –verb (used with object) 28. to animate with fresh ardor or courage; inspirit. 29. to encourage; urge on or stir up, as to action. 30. to carry off mysteriously or secretly (often fol. by away or off): His captors spirited him away. —Idiom 31. out of spirits, in low spirits; depressed: We were feeling out of spirits after so many days of rain. [Origin: 1200–50; ME (n.) < L spīritus orig., a breathing, equiv. to spīri-, comb. form repr. spīrāre to breathe + -tus suffix of v. action] Spirit derives from "breathing" because obviously humans didn't fully understand "air" because it isn't seen, but realized or used for breathing. So it makes perfect sense how this "spirit" you speak of has evolved from obfuscation. Spirit is talking about breath or air. The bible says ..and god breathed the breath of life into Adam. I can deal with that, but there is a problem. God and breath are two separate entities in this context and since you said God = spirit and spirit equals breath how then is your summation correct? Please prove spirit. Please prove God. Waiting.... [/QB][/QUOTE]
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