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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] Meanwhile, back to [i]reality[/i]. We know that Tut and his family were native Egyptians from Waset (Thebes), southern Egypt. We know how he and his family look like from actual portraits made when they were alive. [b]Tut's Grandparents[/b] [IMG]http://www.osirisnet.net/tombes/pharaons/amenhotep3/photo/amenhotep3_head_02.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc332/kushkemet08/268_Egypt_Tiye.jpg[/IMG] [b]Tut's Parents[/b] [IMG]http://www.heptune.com/reckv55.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_O3F0fH5AGXQ/Sdhw5sZiz_I/AAAAAAAAGJo/EiwEVkcMeMQ/s200/Nefertiti_reconstructed+face+from+mummy.PNG[/IMG] ^ We just aren't certain who the identities of his parents are. His father is in all likelyhood Akhenaten although sarcophagus is unmarked and his mother is full sibling of Akhenaten. As for haplogroup, he definitely wasn't R1b... [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [qb] Krahn posted that on rootsweb a long time ago (postmarked Feb 18th), hence "Euronuts" have still been saying a lot since then because at this point, everything is speculation until we can receive some type of confirmation or disconfirmation from DSC or the authors of the study. Though Krahn does point out some striking inconsistencies from the screen shots which leads to the near certainty that it is stock footage, as normal some still choose to ignore it. [QUOTE]Astrid and I have also spent an hour on interpreting the electropherograms from the video yesterday. Unfortunately it's not as easy as counting the gray bars (bins) from the Genemapper software because the lab technicians have added additional bins by themselves for some alleles that don't show up in the ladder. Also there are actually (at least) two different scenes which show peaks from entirely different persons. At 1 minute and 18 seconds they show apparently a full set of (blue, green, black, red) traces which is most likely a control sample from haplogroup R. My best guess for the haplotype would be DYS456 15 DYS389I 13? (additional bin) DYS390 23? (additional bins) DYS389II 30? (additional bins) DYS458 16 DYS19 14 DYS385 11-14 DYS439 10 DYS438 12 DYS437 13 or 14 (additional bins) Y-GATA-H4 11 (NIST nomenclature) DYS393 13 DYS391 11 No warranty for any of the values! This could possibly be the 007 control DNA that comes with the ABI Yfiler kit. At least it looks similar. The more interesting scene starts at 1:22 where a couple of black traces are compared with each other. This could possibly be the real traces from the mummies. Due to a bug in the Genemapper software the bins are not displayed correctly. Note that some of the peaks are far off from the bins. So the only way to investigate this is to use the actual fragment sizes on the bp scale. We have measured and calculated the peak positions with a ruler on the monitor screen and then assigned the alleles based on experimental data from runs on our own instruments. Of course the instrument results vary and there is again no warranty that my guesswork is correct. My call of the NED labeled markers may be something like: DYS393 9 DYS439 11 DYS391 12 DYS635 23 DYS392 13 or 14 (resolution not good enough for a trinucleotide repeat) In an earlier scene at 1:12 in the blue trace we can definitely read allele 16 for the marker DYS458 and as discussed in the article itself we know about Y-GATA-H4 being 11 in NIST nomenclature. Yet another scene at 1:30 shows DYS389I in the blue trace which is most likely allele 13 I'll leave it to the experts to predict a haplogroup for this profile. Without the rare DYS393 allele 9 it matches multiple haplogroups. With the DYS393 = 9 allele I have no matches in the FTDNA database. Again this could still be a wrong sample and I could still have made errors with my analysis. In any case I hope this helps. Thomas[/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]You know, this reminds me about the first time that DNA tests were done on Egyptian mummies to find population relations years ago in the late 90s but Hawass and the Egyptian government attacked it, saying the results were inaccurate. Their reasoning was that it was done and perverted by Zionists! Now, what genetic lineage could possibly associated with 'Jews' except J derived ones which are [i]also[/i] associated with Arabs! Anyway, the actual findings were not published at all, but flash forward about a decade with more accurate DNA assessing technology and curious how the only thing the Egyptian SCA will release is info on family relations but not population ones. I seriously don't think the testings this round were tainted by 'Zionist' Jews. :o You would think that if Tut's haplogroup were something connected to Europeans, the results would have been published the first day! But no it hasn't, which leaves Euronuts like Hammered frothing at the mouth and coming to wild conclusions that Tut had European derived lineage. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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