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[QUOTE]Originally posted by King_Scorpion: [QB] I was doing a google search earlier and ran across old forum debates about the race of the Moors and Egyptians, etc. I realized how little the issue has truly progressed in the years since I began following it. It's barely been raised past an elementary-internet level of debate. It's easy to separate the debaters who actually know a little something about history (like Dana M for instance)...and those who simply post from Mathilda's blog and get their "facts" from racist sites like Racial Reality. Books on the issue are rare, and those that are written aren't given the time of day...even by alternative history websites and programs. The historical community hasn't really progressed very far either. Good, balanced research on issues such as the relationship between West Africans and North Africans are still hard to come by outside of genetic research...but I'm speaking on socio-cultural ties. Areas that need more work also include the Afro-Arabic Connection. We're probably the only site on the internet that actively talks about this, but I don't know ANY modern scholar who has used the works of al-Jahiz and other muslim historians to build a new theory on what is a very complex history of relationships. Instead, we still argue using outdated terms like negroid and caucasoid. Even though these terms aren't popular within historical circles anymore, it's heavy use in the past has layed a very strong foundation of modern historiography with regards to Africa that seems nearly impossible to penetrate. And the inability of the Western historical community to acknowledge these biases and wrongs in an attempt to correct them is nothing short of baffling. At best it shows an unwillingness to admit so many failures of historians from the past. It would force the historical community to call into question decades of beliefs...essentially it's lazy scholarship. At worse, the elites within the historical community still secretly hold these beliefs which would explain why they don't correct themselves. Anyway, I came across a debate on the allEmpires forum that Dana took part in as well as a few other ES posters. http://www.allempires.com/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22762&PN=21 There is a link on page 21 that provided a great quote from Sundiata that really expresses how I feel on the subject. http://www.allempires.net/topic18461_page1.html [b]"LOL. Eurocentists kill me. Of course it's myth, just like Atlantis but why is it racist? "Racist" against whom? The arrogance implied here is amazing (so Atlantis isn't racist, right?). Just another fallacious double standard as is expected in western discourse. A lot of you people are programmed to hate Africa and don't even know it which is why they throw around buzz words like "Afrocentric", but not to describe an approach to history, but to describe any claim of achievement made by fellow human beings who simply happen to be African. It's a blessing that most Africans don't care and have REAL civilizations to fall back on anyways (but of course I'm Afrocentric for even suggesting that)."[/b] A poster made a thread asking what the theory of a Zinj Empire racist? His reason for asking this question is because he sees it on "afrocentrist websites." Afrocentrism has become a weak excuse to not debate people. It's as if anyone who speaks on African achievement is a racist afrocentrist! Who is REALLY being racist here? Is it the people claiming the Moors were black by using the words of medieval Muslims who SAW THEM?!?!? Or is it the people who after all these years, STILL can't mount a substancial rebuttal and still resort to using knee jerk attacks like "AFROCENTRIST!!" because they don't know what they're talking about and have no argument to make. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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