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ISRAEL, MISRAH AND CANAAN IN CONTEXT: AFRICANS IN ARABIA Part I
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kalonji: [qb] ^ [QUOTE] Originally posted by Kalonji: Not going to happen, why don’t you stop talking about perceived historical flaws (that nobody contests) and start to show pro-actively for a change, a breakdown [b]of how and when exactly mistranslations/misidentifications happened.[/b] Stop insulting my intelligence with reasoning like: 1.The Hyksos worshipped Seth. 2.And according to this quote, the Amalekites worshipped Seth too. This is conclusive evidence to suggest that they were the same people. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Originally posted by Kalonji: 1.The monuments that are constantly being found in the Levant, while no monuments with references to Hebrews are found in Arabia. (Sheshonq 1 monument at Megiddo, the Moab inscription, Tel Dan Inscription) [/QUOTE]^Very clear. Like I said, your perceived lack of extra biblical evidence in my approach are nothing but ramblings. You have yet to produce something as conclusive as that [ Analyse your quotes better before you try to prove a point that might be contradicting your other theories. [/qb][/QUOTE]Thanks but like I said I will disregard YOUR OPINIONS. Especially the one about Hyksos not worshipping Seth. I already showed proactively in my various posts and in my answers to you that it is a STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY for HUNDREDS of place names of the Old Testament to be found in their proper places and in the southern half of Arabia and it be coincidence. I am hardly bothered by your name-calling but your badgering is kind of irritating - like a nag. Your complete utter disregard for this and your nonsense about discoveries of "real" Exodus places in Syria were naturally backed up by no evidence AS USUAL. And thus nothing but a lie. Salibi's references are historical places today. The people that are mentioned in the Bible are people living today and half of them never made it up to Palestine. If there were something more than a handful of Biblical names found in Syro-Palestine as is WELL KNOWN I would take your criticism seriously but as there aren't and as you are plain out feigning there are and that you know something other than elementary Biblical "parables" - I can't. You are an amateur opinion-maker, and ideologue, Kalonji and not a historian, which is why you have not bothered to bring up any sources here, and refused to look at any of the ones I presented. Much like "Hammered" who also considers himself some kind of logician and says nothing at the same time. ;) For people truly interested in Biblical history today they can read some of my previous postings. "According to an article written by Gary Byers on Biblical Archeology . 'The good news is that Finkelstein has publicly declared that he does not deny the existence of either David or Solomon (Shanks 2002: 45). The bad news is that he does not believe they were who the Bible described them to be. As an archaeologist, Finkelstein sees no evidence for David’s capital in Jerusalem and no evidence for his kingdom anywhere else in the region. Neither is there a capital city or temple in Jerusalem during Solomon’s time, nor is there archaeological evidence of Solomon’s reign elsewhere – especially at Megiddo, Hazor and Gezer (I Kgs 9:15)."" Maybe you should be complaining to Finkelstein, Salibi, Thomas L. Thompson and other Biblical scholars who have said what I just reiterated above instead of nagging me about theories you've pronounce were mine. You should but its probably not likely since you are not an academic or interested in reasoned argument nor do you even exhibit any want to be. And then you expect me to be moved by what you have written. As I mentioned on another post, "On the other hand Salibi found all of the Bible place names such as Megiddo, Hazor and Gezer as well as all of the over two dozen "gates of Israel" in regions further south, in the area still said to have been originally occupied by Ad, Amalek, Saba and Himyar." What Salibi has nearly proven is that most of the names of the Biblical Judah were found in the southern Hejaz. Many of the names of the Amarna records are illiterated in the order and groups that they are found in the Hejaz. The gates of the Biblical Israel are in the Asir. The tribes of Israel and hamm wer located in the Hejaz and Yemen. The names of the people of Judah of all the Levites and Gate Keepers and H-msrrym, and temples servants the sons of Jedaiah, Immer, Pashhur, Harim of the h-khnym are found in areas like Yemamah and Central Arabia. The names of the villages and clans or families mentioned in rthe book of Ezra and Nehemia are almost all found today in the Jizan and in the Tihama and in the area south of Taif and other parts of the southern Hejaz. According to Salibi and other scholars they include Lehi, Ziha, Hasupha, Tabbaoth, Keros, Siaha, Padon, Leban, Hagabah, Akkub, Hagab, Shamlai Hanan, Giddel Gahar, Reiah, Rezin, Nekoda, Gazzam ,Uzza, Pasea, Besai, Asnah, Meunim, Nephisim, Bakbuk, Hakupha, Harhur, Bazluth, Mehida, Harsha, Barkos, Sisera, Tamah, Neziah, Hatipha, Solomonm Sotai, Hassophereth, Peruda, Jaalah, Darkon, Giddel Shephatiah, Hattil, Pocheret-Hazebaim, Ami Arah, Zattu, Ater, Tel Harsha, Adan Hariph, Anathoth, Azmaveth, Adonikam, Netophah, Bethel, Ai, Barzillai Azgad, Hebaiah, Adin, Elam, Cherub, Bebai, Thummim, Parosh, Gibeon, Nebo, Gibbar, Hadid, UrimKiriath Jarim, Beeroth, Jeshua, Jorah Bethlehem , Ramah, Geba, Michmas, Magbish, Tobiah, Ono, Joab, Bani, Jericho, Zaccai, Pi-Ramsses, Gaza, Guzan, Jerusalim, the Canaanites, Lashich, Israel, the tribes of Jacob, Sodom, Gommorah, Jericho, Hauran, Sharon, Naharain, the four rivers of Eden and Gan Eden, to NAME A FEW. See Chapter 8 The Bible Came from Arabia. In some cases there were more than one of these ancient names in this southwest Arabian area. Modern Israel does not possess most or even a quarter of these towns and when they have shown up archeology has sufficiently demonstrated they are either founded in the wrong geographical and chronological places as is the case with Bethlehem, Jerusalim, and Jericho. It is long been known that the names of the many of the children of Shem and Qahtan, Uzal, Hadoram, Hadramaut are actually ancient south Arabian locales, but its Salibi and other historians now showing that Hamm and Shem in general were early names of tribes and/or villages in the area. These peoples carried their names northward as I have started to show in this series and many did so in relatively recent times, beginning with the Sassanid period, and not "when the Canaanites spread abroad". Many of these are the names of dark complexioned or near black clans in Arabia even today that claim their origins to be even further south or in Africa and who were named after their tribal chiefs in Arabia. The myths surrounding their movements and migrations in many cases are similar to those described in the Old testament that supposedly happened in or near Palestine as I have already begun to illustrate. AGAIN _ Maybe you should be complaining to Finkelstein, Salibi and other Biblical scholars who have said what I just reiterated above instead of nagging me about theories you've complained were mine! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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