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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Just call me Jari: [qb] ^^^^ Yasmin can you please explain why modern Arabs call blacks "Abdeed" if your "Prophet" was black?? Also When did the White Arabs become dominant in the Muslim world?? Thanks.. BTW welcome to the Forum...Join your Arab Brother Alwaad Berry who is the main poster representing for the Black Arabs... A-Salaam-Alaykum... Gundislavus "the Iberian" Productions.. [/qb][/QUOTE]Goldenberg states in the Curse of Ham, “This view of the Arab as dark-skinned is also found among other peoples as is indicated by the term arap (i.e. Arab) meaning black African in modern Turkish, Greek and Russian as well as in Yiddish.” (Goldenberg, p 2003. 124) Today, the lesser modified remnants of the Arab tribes once known to have been settled as far North as Turkey and Greece in the Medieval period are still found in southern Mesopotamia among the Beni Amir or Hawazin tribes who figure among those “blacks” facing “racial discrimination in what was Mesopotamia modern and called ABEED along with the descendants of the Zanj! These original north Arabians K'ab the al Muntafik Beni Amir or Hawazin in Iraq are today called Abeed because they are "black" - PERIOD. How many times do you have to be told Gundislavus the early Arabs or Arabians in general were black a people from Yarab descendant of Saba like the rest of Qahtan. Their true descendants still claim to come from Africa originally. "Arab" is a language and nationality today and anyone can call themselves Arab. Jahiz wrote, “if the Arabs are reddish, then they belong to the Rum (Byzantines), Saqaliba (Slavs), Persians and Khurasanis...." Non-Arabs like Persians and Khurasanis took over the Islamic world in the Abbasid period. You might want to look up some history of the Middle East. They disliked black peoples like the Arabs who had originally conquered them and treated as slaves. Rumi a PERSIAN wrote to Abbasid leaders in the 9th century - "You insulted (the family of the Prophet) because of their blackness (bi-l-sawad), while there are still deep black, PURE_BLOODED ARABS. However, you are white – the Romans (Byzantines) have embellished your faces with their color." (cited by Berry and Wesley Muhammad, 2010, p. 29). From the account of Ma Huang admiral of Zheng He of the 14th century explorer - "The Country of the Heavenly Square“… from Zhida (today’s Jedda or Jiddah) you go West and after traveling for one day you reach the city where the king resides. It is named the capital city of Moqie (Mecca)… They profess the Muslim religion a holy man first expanded and spread the doctrine of his teaching in this country, and right down to the present day the people of the country all observe the regulations of the doctrine in their actions, not daring to commit the slightest transgression. The people of this country are stalwart and fine looking, and their limbs and faces are of a dark purple color”. There “are two main categories of blacks in Iraq, mostly in the south, who total about 300,000: those of East African origin numbering around 100,000; and those of whom are Arab and originate from the Hejaz, claiming to be descended from the Prophet Muhammad, who moved to this country mostly in the 1750s and 1980s. The latter are mostly from the Muntafek tribe... " now available for purchase at Amazon.com Iraq's Blacks”, APS Diplomat Redrawing the Islamic Map (Newsletter), December 15, 2008, Arab Press Service, Volume: 56 Issue: 6; Distributed by Gale, a part of Cengage Learning Volume 56 Issue: 6 All early Arab tribes are at one time called black or near black with kinky hair. ALL OF THEM! This includes the Kindites except for Sasak and Sakun whom Tabari describes as black with straight hair. The Azd or Kahlan tribes, the Qays or Sulaym (black as lava and Hawazin (modern Abeed of Iraq) the Bakir bin Wail (still black) the Anaeza and Lakhimids of the Azd and Lihyan now called Lahiyan of the Hudhail (with black and shining skins todya), the Tayyi, Shammar and Madhij whose leader Shuraik al Cadi (el -Ca'idah) said a fair-skinned Arab is INCONCEIVABLE and one of the 7 rare things in this world in the 7th century (according to a Cordoban work the Precious Necklace written by an Arabized Iranian in the 9th.). Iraqi's are people the Arabs conquered. "White Syrians", Iranians and Turks are peoples the Arabs conquered and Arabized - PERIOD. These people are called the "red " men by early Arab peoples and some of their descendants now occupy the peninsula among the original black or Arab populations. It doesn't mean these people can not be called Arabs today. All of the southern and northern tribes - the Kedarenes (Nabataeans)are called black in documents - As late as the 14th century Andalusian descended Ibn Khaldun says the largest group of the north Arabians were the Beni Amir bin Zaza tribes represented today by the ABID of Iraq , Kab, Uqayl Khafaja, Khazael in Khuzestan and southern Iraq living BLACKS i.e. real Arabs! “Tung Tien” and “T’ang History” written in the 8th and 10th centuries in China respectively have notices regarding the visit of early delegations from the Hijaz. They mention that men from the country of the Arabs “are black and bearded” and “have high noses” (cited in Muhammad, p. 194, Black Arabia. 2009). The delegations involved were led by S'ad ibn Waqqas and his father CLOSE relatives of MOHAMMAD. I guess I will have to report the other hundred accounts of what the Arabians looked like later when I am able to come back to the forum since some of us aren't getting the gist of the problem, but I couldn't let your Iberian nonsense stand for long. ;) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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