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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] [b]Kalonji - Nice piece of work, but by scientificaly analyzing his paper, you are suggesting that it has a scientific value. That is really giving Trenton W. Holliday more credit than he deserves. I give him no such respect, so I will simply deconstruct his nonsense.[/b] Evolution at the Crossroads: Modern Human Emergence in Western Asia Trenton W. Holliday (Mar., 2000) Abstract There is long-standing disagreement regarding Upper Pleistocene human evolution in Western Asia, particularly the Levant. Some argue that there were two different populations, perhaps different species, of Upper Pleistocene Levantine hominids. The first, from [b]the Israeli sites of Qafzeh and Skhul, is anatomically modern.[/b] The second, from sites such as Amud, Kebara, and Tabun, is archaic, or "Neandertal" in morphology. Others argue that this is a false dichotomy and that all of these hominids belong to a single, highly variable population. In this paper I attempt to resolve this issue by examining postcranial measures reflective of body shape. Results indicate that the Qafzeh-Skhul hominids have African-like, or tropically adapted, proportions, [b]while those from Amud, Kebara, Tabun, and Shanidar (Iraq) have more European-like, or cold-adapted, proportions.[/b] This suggests that there were in fact two distinct Western Asian populations and that the Qafzeh-Skhul hominids were likely African in origin - a result consistent with the "Replacement" model of modern human origins Definitions: Hominids, also known as great apes. Neanderthal - The first proto-Neanderthal traits appeared in Europe as early as 600,000–350,000 years ago. Proto-Neanderthal traits are occasionally grouped to another phenetic 'species', Homo heidelbergensis, or a migrant form, Homo rhodesiensis. By 130,000 years ago, complete Neanderthal characteristics had appeared. These characteristics then disappeared in Asia by 50,000 years ago and in Europe by about 30,000 years ago, with no further individuals having enough Neanderthal morphological traits to be considered as part of Homo neanderthalensis. Current (as of 2010) genetic evidence suggests interbreeding took place with Homo sapiens sapiens (anatomically modern humans) between roughly 80,000 to 50,000 years ago in the Middle East, resulting in 1-4% of the genome of people from Eurasia having been contributed by Neanderthals. His samples: The Skhul/Qafzeh [b]hominids[/b] or Qafzeh-Skhul early modern humans are human fossils from Qafzeh and Es Skhul Caves, Israel. The remains are quite robust; exhibiting a mix of archaic and modern traits. They have been tentatively dated at about 80,000-120,000 years old using electron spin resonance and thermoluminescence dating techniques. The brain case is [b]similar to modern humans,[/b] but they possess brow ridges and a projecting facial profile, similar to the Neanderthals. The samples from Amud, Kebara, Tabun, and Shanidar are NEANDERTHALS!!! To those who brought Natufians into the debate: He is talking about "Humanoids". The Natufian culture was a "MODERN HUMAN" Mesolithic culture that existed in the Levant, in the period 12,500 to 9,500 BC. What could they possibly have to do with each other? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b]The Title quote: Evolution at the Crossroads: Modern Human Emergence in Western Asia.[/b] Modern man is OLDER that ANY of the samples he is analyzing. SO HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE "EMERGENCE" OF MODERN MAN? [b]His quote: The first, from the Israeli sites of Qafzeh and Skhul, is anatomically modern.[/b] NO THEY ARE NOT "ANATOMICALLY MODERN HUMANS" - THAT IS A LIE!!! [b]His quote: While those from Amud, Kebara, Tabun, and Shanidar (Iraq) have more "European-like", or cold-adapted, proportions. This suggests that there were in fact two distinct Western Asian populations and that the Qafzeh-Skhul hominids were likely African in origin - a result consistent with the "Replacement" model of modern human origins[/b] HERE IS IS APPEALING TO THE IGNORANT WHITE WITH THE TERMS "EUROPEAN LIKE" AND "REPLACEMENT" (like they were Whites who later went to Europe and were replaced in the area by Africans). THE CORRECT TERM, WHICH IS SHORTER, IS NEANDERTHAL. BUT TO SAY NEANDERTHAL WOULD REMOVE THE POSSIBILITY OF IT SOUNDING LIKE HE IS TALKING ABOUT "WHITE" PEOPLE. [b]And really, that's what his whole paper was about. Trying to give Whites a toe-hole for saying that they are a unique and "Natural" species of Humans, who evolved naturally just like Blacks. That is of course NOT true. Whites are simply Black Albinos: genetics tells us that they separated from Blacks and lived separately from about 40,000 years ago. Trenton W. Holliday and the rest, just really need to accept that.[/b] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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