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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kalonji: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kalonji: [qb]If Brace included the other component, the result would have been different. But you just don’t get it, or you don’t want to get it. [/qb][/QUOTE]Taken into account all evidence on Natufian remains archaeologically, genetically, linguistically etc... the Eurasian and African culture was equal. Therefore regardless of the results, it's not surprising. [/qb][/QUOTE]Translation: Kalonji, I know you’re right about the distorted conclusions one can arrive at by using 4 crania, and that this means I was wrong about ‘’Niger congo’’ features among Natufians in general, but I’m just going to act like I didn’t notice that and go on talking about other stuff. [QUOTE]Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kalonji: [qb] 50% of Keita’s Badarian sample fell in the range of what his Gabonese sample was capable of expressing, but this doesn’t mean that both groups clustered in Keitas study.[/qb][/QUOTE]The Badarian and Gabonese didn't combine to create the Natufian culture, Kebarans and Mushabians did. [/qb][/QUOTE]What kind of whack retort is that? The point of me bringing it up was to educate you on the fact that a positioning of 4 Natufian crania between Nubians and Niger congo speakers is nothing to make generalizations with. [QUOTE]Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: Certainly doesn't mean Africans weren't present beforehand as noted through all disciplines, unless you think Africans only come in "Negroid traits", do you? ^^Point above, just because one doesn't fit a "Negroid trait" profile doesn't make one not African. [/QUOTE]Yes, the Mesolithic Nile valley population that brought grindstones into the Levant DID come predominanty in ‘’Negroid traits’’. Negroid traits that as evidenced by Wadi Halfans, clustered with ‘’sub-saharan Africans’’ before they did with later dynastic Egyptians and Nubians. Even if we leave open the possibility that not so broad featured Africans migrated as well before these latecomers described by all anthropologists, the burden is on you to prove that. And even if you can prove that they did, the burden is on you again, to explain why the other extreme (Mesolithic Eurasians) that was present, doesn’t resemble elongated nile valley Africans. For one, they had a low frequency of occipital buns and had broader calvaria, prominent chins etc. This is why for the thousandth time, but still not penetrating, Arthur mentioned these features, and how they ‘’appreared’’ in the pre-existing Natufian area, and how these features distinguished the bearers from those that did not display them. [QUOTE]Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kalonji: [qb] [i]It is a further surprise that the Epipalaeolithic Natufian of Israel [b]from whom the Neolithic realm was assumed to arise[/b] has a clear link to Sub-Saharan Africa. [/i][/qb][/QUOTE]Indeed a clear link, not a later contribution to it. [/qb][/QUOTE]^Ok, now he is officially sliming his way out of this with an answer that doesn’t even make sense. Can someone who is knowledgeable and who follows this discussion please step in and tell him what’s up so we can end this? Note how the slimeball totally ignores the fact that Brace was [b]very specific[/b] about the era (latest hunters who transitioned into the Neolithic) of Natufian that had ‘’Negroid’’ features: [i]the Epipalaeolithic Natufian (…) [b]from whom the Neolithic realm was assumed to arise[/b] has a clear link to Sub-Saharan Africa[/i] This is an EXACT mirror of what Angel said, but just in different words. Words that somehow just keep flying past MOMs head [/QB][/QUOTE]
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