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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] None of the above makes any difference. Melanesians need not be 86+. Upper Egyptians or Nubians are not that high. And the san post 84.2 with little gene flow. Tropical populations vary, just like non-tropicals, and that includes "warm." No credible scholar thinks "warm" only refers to a subtropical climate. None of the data supports your attempt to make out that Southern Europeans are closer to the Egyptian. Before you get to the Europeans, the closest match is with Sub-Saharan people- the San. On the other side of the coin- the warm side- the closest match is Upper Egyptians. On either side of the scale, the primary connection is African. Raxter's own data shows this. You say anyone can read- sure- and per Raxter- quote: [i]""Ancient Egyptians and Nubians of both sexes are consistently significantly different in limb length proportions from Northern and Southern Europeans, with their brachial and crural indices grouping with the majority of other Africans. " [/] She never said anything about all Egyptians clustering with Southern Medits are you are trying to make out. And Raxter/Ruff 2008 ran a similar study- same overall pattern. [i]""Intralimb (crural and brachial) indices are significantly higher in ancient Egyptians than in American Whites (except crural index among females), i.e., Egyptians have relatively longer distal segments (Table 4). Intralimb indices are not significantly different between Egyptians and American Blacks." [/i] Raxter is not the only relevant study, and when you step outside Raxter- makes no diff- same result. In fact Raxter/Ruff cite another study where American blacks were in the mix- same result. Likewise Kemp 2005 notes as regards yet another study- this one with data on Lower Egyptians: [i]""..sample populations available from northern Egypt from before the 1st Dynasty (Merimda, Maadi and Wadi Digla) turn out to be significantly different from sample populations from early Palestine and Byblos, suggesting a lack of common ancestors over a long time. If there was a south-north cline variation along the Nile valley it did not, from this limited evidence, continue smoothly on into southern Palestine. The limb-length proportions of males from the Egyptian sites group them with Africans rather than with Europeans." [/i] --(Barry Kemp, "Ancient Egypt Anatomy of a Civilisation. (2005) Routledge. p. 52-60) The scholarly conclusions are clearly there for people to read. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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