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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] [b]^^^The problem is you can't use the mere existance of African lineages in Southern Egypt and Sudan as proof of Ancient Egyptians affiliations. You can only use ancient DNA from Ancient Egyptian mummies to determine ethnic affiliations. [/b] You don't have to use DNA studies, Skeletal, cranial and archaeological data easily make the case. Why do you erroneously assume that DNA data is the only valid type of data? And DNA studies of modern people in Egypt also confirm the presence of African lineages in southern Egypt from ancient times. Again, why do you erroneously assume that aDNA is the only valid data? The Gurna study also confirms the case using DNA analysis of modem inhabitants: quote-- [i]"Our results suggest that the Gurna population has conserved the trace of an ancestral genetic structure from an ancestral East African population, characterized by a high M1 haplogroup frequency. The current structure of the Egyptian population may be the result of further influence of neighbouring populations on this ancestral population."[/i] There was such an ancestral population in place, from ancient East Africa which influenced ancient Egyptians. Note- no aDNA is needed to make that case either. Why do you insinuate that aDNA is some sort of "last word" on everything? aDNA is just another line of evidence. And why do you yourself use modern data elsewhere? This is somewhat of a double standard you are manifesting. When you were replying to Charlie Bass, who, without the slightest bit of evidence you insist is not actually Charlie Bass (another one of your supposed "special revelations") you said: [i]On the contrary EVERYTHING points to mass settlement of the horn by Eurasians. [/i] ^^But you didn't use aDNA to make this claim but regular DNA studies. Why now are you suddenly asserting that nothing but aDNA will work to establish ancient population origins or movements? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth as usual. and you also say: [i] E-P2 West African populations probably left East Africa somewhere before 10 000 years ago. [/i] ^^But to make this claim for 10,000 years ago you do not use aDNA. How come you make the claim, if aDNA is the only game in town as you now claim above? Here again you are making contradictory statements. [IMG]http://www.artsjournal.com/engage/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/StrawMan.jpg[/IMG] And who here says that [i]"Nubians now living along the Nile are not even direct descendant of the Kushites"[/i] to quote you? This is yet another strawman you are "debating" against, as is typical of your Captain Obvious approach. Who doesn't know that "Nubians now living along the Nile are not even direct descendant of the Kushites"? Gee, is this another "revelation" of yours Captain Obvious? No one here is advancing any such argument except you, building a strawman. Yurco up above refers to ancient Nubians contemporary with the ancient Egyptians not your strawman about Nubians now today on the Nile. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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