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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nodnarb: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Punos_Rey: [qb]I just still don't get how people can apply black as a racial category to Sub-Saharans and not to dark skinned Saharan populations(except the Nubians apparently). And even if distinct, aren't the Saharan populations and Sub-Saharan populations still tied by the Green Sahara period and interimittent contact thereafter? You guys have been at this a lot longer than I have so forgive any ignorance on my part. [/qb][/QUOTE]In the beginning as you know, "black" appears to have started out as a pigmentation-based reference. That's why dark brown populations in, say, India could be called "black" but not lighter-skinned Khoisan ones in southernmost Africa. As to why the terminology evolved to refer strictly to West/Central Africans and their offshoots in the Diaspora, I am not sure. My guess is that, since white supremacist racialism developed in the context of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, somewhere along the line "Black" became associated with slaves who were predominantly from West and Central Africa. I do think early "scientific" racialists had an investment in dissociating AE (and their relatives in northeastern Africa by proxy) from the ancestry of Afro-Diasporan slaves as part of their white supremacist agenda. They might have conceded AE weren't pale like Europeans, but they still must have been looking for any characteristics that would differentiate them from stereotyped "real Negroes". As it happens, they got lucky with the Saharans already having a distinct substructure. On the other hand, some of them also would have classified Melanesians and Aboriginal Australians as "Negroids", and I have seen modern-day white supremacists on the Internet confuse them with Africans on Internet forums like VNN. That isn't to say nobody would have noticed physical differences across African populations before then. All I'm saying is that the desire to emphasize these differences in order to "wash" AE from the "taint" of "Black" or "sub-Saharan African" influence has been a real thing. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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