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[QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lyin' arse: [qb] The above lists doesn't appear as lists like this in the Astronomica by Manilius. They are remarks he makes within the text. And when he talks about these various skin complections above he does not sort them into two categories "black" and "white". That is something you did. lyin' arse fuckuptions 2001. [/qb][/QUOTE]My lists are compiled from Manilius' textual order. Amazing how it was fine when you wanted to raise an anti-black polemic but is no good once white entered the equation. Dana is right you are snaky. Manilius composed a hierarchy of the white and black peoples known in his day by descending intensity of pallor or color in lines 711-730 of his Astronomicon as below. [QUOTE][i]Idcirco in varias leges variasque figuras dispositum genus est hominum, proprioque colore formantur gentes, sociataque iura per artus materiamque parem privato foedere signant. [URL=http://www.]flava[/URL] per ingentis surgit [b]Germania[/b] partus, [b]Gallia[/b] vicino minus est infecta [URL=http://www.]rubore[/URL], asperior solidos [b]Hispania[/b] contrahit artus. Martia Romanis urbis pater induit ora Gradivumque Venus miscens bene temperat artus, perque [URL=http://www.]coloratas subtilis[/URL] [b]Graecia[/b] gentes gymnasium praefert vultu fortisque palaestras, et [b]Syriam[/b] produnt torti per tempora crines.[/i] [i] [b]Aethiopes[/b] maculant orbem [URL=http://www.]tenebrisque[/URL] figurant perfusas hominum gentes; minus [b]India[/b] [URL=http://www.]tostos[/URL] progenerat; tellusque natans [b]Aegyptia[/b] Nilo lenius irriguis [URL=http://www.]infuscat[/URL] corpora campis iam propior mediumque facit moderata tenorem. Phoebus harenosis [b]Afrorum[/b] pulvere terris exsiccat populos, et [b]Mauretania[/b] nomen oris habet titulumque suo fert ipsa [URL=http://www.]colore[/URL].[/i] [/QUOTE]Nothing you can do or say will make Manilius' words go away. Anyone with basic analytical skills will produce the same skeletal list from the reference text. It is impossible to derive any other ordered list than that which I posted. Manilius' order of white complexions from the most light to the least light - Germania - Gallia - Hispania - Romanis - Graecia - Syrium Manilius' order black complexions from the most dark to the least dark are - Aethiopes - India - Aegyptia - Afrorum - Mauretania You yourself based an argument on Mauretanians not being black as Aethiopes because of the way Manilius ordered the blacks. Now you want to claim he never made that hierarchy. Yes you are a snake. Neither you or Melchior are interested in studying Africa from the Greco-Latin perspective. Both of you are here to uphold tired Eurocentric propositions. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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