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[QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB] [b]Their skin color contrast sharply with most Sub Sharan Sahran Blacks. Also you can still see their Eusaisn fetaures which they claim from the Sanhaja.[/b] Their skin color is for the most part is dark not "Pale". as you tried to imply when you brought up "Bidane". I will continue to slap your clown ass down the more you try to squirm away from this with more proof. More Sahrans, Decendants of the Sanhadja.. [IMG]http://www.freedomtocreate.com/images/content/Artists/AzizaBrahim-001-Main.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3482/westshr8.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/267/westshr7.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.losviajeros.net/fotos/africa/argelia/saharawis.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9404/21202846.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE][i]"“The Berber women are from the island of Barbara, which is between the west and the south. [b]Their color is mostly black though some pale ones can be found among them.[/b] If you can find one whose mother is of Kutama, whose father is of Sanhaja, and whose origin is Masmuda, then you will find her naturally inclined to obedience and loyalty in all matters, active in service, suited both to motherhood and to pleasure, for they are the most solicitous in caring for their children. “"[/i][/QUOTE]-Ibn Butlan 11th Century.. Nasr i Khusrau, an Iranian ruler described the Masmuda soldiers of the Fatimid dynasty as “black Africans”. -11th Century See Yaacov Lev, “Army, Regime and Society in Fatimid Egypt, 358-487/968-1094″, International Journal of Middle Eastern Studies, 19.3 (1987) p. 342. [QUOTE][i](At the moment the published DBM list contains no troops that fit this description, and the most likely candidates at this date are probably the Berbers. The Persian traveller Nasir-i Khusrau described Fatimid Masmuda infantry as armed with spear and sword (Yaacov Lev, "Army, Regime and Society in Fatimid Egypt, 358-487/968-1094", International Journal of Middle Eastern Studies 19.3 (1987), p.342; [b]although Nasir-i Khusrau for some reason describes them as black Africans, the Masmuda are a Berber confederacy[/b]).)[/i][/QUOTE].........[i]The Taureq [i]Bani Tanamek[/i] were counted among the Sanhadja.[/i]........... Description of Yussef Tachfin leader of the Almoravid Berbers(Sanhadja).. [QUOTE][i]Yusuf was of [b]“brown color”,[/b] of “middle height” with , “ thin, little beard, soft voice” and [b]“woolly hair”[/b][/i][/QUOTE]-Roudh el-Kartas” (History of the Rulers of Morocco) by Abd Allah, and A.Beaumier’s French translation of the 14th century work, The Sanhadja would have been dark to Meduim Reddish brown with Woolly hair.. [ [QUOTE][i][b]Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra- Saharan Africa.[/b][/i][/QUOTE]- Frigi et al. [IMG]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQT8D0mbskDEpfwNgoIRE9g0ivGh4t7Z9z65QputaR_IM2uIbunot46Y06uHQ[/IMG] [b]Also I'm tired of repeating the same damn things over and over. You have posted what you claim to believe and I have have written at length to explain why I believe you are wrong. Let the objective minded look at our posts and decide for themselves. I have said all that I needed to say about this.[/b] The only objective minded person here is me. You are deluded if you think Ibn Bhattua's remark about getting sick if earing Sudani food had anything to do with skin color, esp given the fact that the word in arabic was Bidane and had nothing to do with the modern notion of being "White" Only a fool will deny that Ibn Bhattuta was referencing the difference in Geographical location just as an American visiting Mexico who fears getting sick from the water there is basing his assertions off Geography and Location. You can repeat yourself until your ass bleeds it still wont change the facts kid. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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